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RADICAL LURCH ON HEALTH CARE. >> THIS IS THE PART ABOUT BERNIE
SANDERS WE WERE ALL ELUDING TO. LAST WEEK 16 SENATE DEMOCRATS
FLOCKED TO SUPPORT INDEPENDENT BERNIE SANDERS BILL FAR SINGER
PAYER MEDICARE FOR ALL HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
THIS COMING MONDAY SANDERS WILL START THE WEEK WITH A NATIONALLY
TELEVISED DEBATE. A DEMOCRATIC SOURCE TOLD NBC
NEWS THIS IS EXACTLY THE DEBATE THEY WANT TO HAVE.
SANDERS IS LOOKING OUT FOR HIMSELF RATHER THAN BEING A TEEN
PLAYER. FORMER OBAMA SPOKESPERSON
TWEETED I'M NOT YOUR SINGLE PAYER VERSUS --
>> EXACTLY. THE DEBATE THE REPUBLICANS WANT.
IN FACT SENATOR GRAM FRAMED THEIR -- THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE TO
THE SINGLE PAYER IDEA WHEN HE INTRODUCED IT LAST WEEK.
>> IF YOU BELIEVE REPEALS AND REPLACING OBAMACARE IS A GOOD
IDEA THIS IS YOUR BEST AND ONLY CHANCE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN BECAUSE
EVERYTHING ELSE HAS FAILED EXCEPT THIS APPROACH WHICH WILL
WORK IF WE GET BEHIND IT. IF YOU WANT A SINGLE PAYER
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM THIS IS YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE.
BERNIE, THIS ENDS YOUR DREAM OF SINGLE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM FOR
AMERICA. >>.
>> I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW STUPID THIS IS POLITICALLY.
I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT CHUCK SHUMER OR ANYBODY COULD HAVE
EVER SIGNED OFF ON THIS IDEA WHERE YOUR ACTUALLY GOING TO
DRIVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TOWARDS LINDSAY GRAM'S BILL BECAUSE --
WAIT A SECOND, SOCIALISM, MEDICARE FOR ALL FOR A SYSTEM WE
ALREADY KNOW IS GOING BANKRUPT VERSUS RETURNING IT TO THE
STATES. BOTH OF THEM ARE RADICAL.
I WANT TO GO WITH A RADICAL PLAN OR DO WE GO WITH A RADICAL PLAN
THAT MAY NOT -- HOW COULD BERNIE SANDERS -- HOW COULD THEY DO
THIS? IT IS NOT JUST THE DEMOCRATS
THEY ARE LETTING DOWN. IT IS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT
COULD BE HURT BY THE PASSAGE OF THE REPUBLICAN BILL.
>> THE REALITY IS MEDICARE FOR ALL IS WAY MORE POPULAR WITH
PEOPLE IN PRINCIPAL AND IT POLLS MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT THE
REPUBLICANS ARE SUGGESTING. IF YOU'RE WITH BERNIE SANDERS
RIGHT NOW AND YOU SEE LINDSAY GRAM GIVING THAT SPEECH.
HE IS BEATING BERNIE SANDERS. ANY HALF WAY SANE POLITICIAN
THAT SEES IT SAYS THAT GUY IS TRY TO GO BAIT ME, PROBABLY FAR
REASON. THE WHOLE POINT HERE IS TO KEEP
THE FOCUS ON HOW BAD THIS REPUBLICAN BILL IS.
WE CAN HAVE A DEBATE LATER ABOUT THE VIRTUES OF MEDICARE FOR ALL
AND SINGLE PAIR. YOU MIGHT WIN THAT DEBATE.
>> HOW ABOUT AFTER NEXT SATURDAY?
HOW ABOUT THAT? IT'S NOT LIKE HE HAS A WAY UNTIL
2019 -- >> ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS KEEP
FOCUSED ON HOW MANY PEOPLE OF EVERY STAKE HOLDER JUST KEEP
TALKING ABOUT THAT. THAT'S ALL YOU GOT TO DO.
DON'T TAKE THE BAIT. >> EVEN THE INSURANCE COMPANIES
ARE AGAINST GRAM CASSIDY. PART OF THEM WILL LOSE IT BUT
THEY ARE ALSO WORRIED ABOUT SINGLE PAYER.
THEY SAY IF YOU TURN ALL OF THIS MONEY OVER YOU'LL END UP WITH A
SINGLE PAYER SYSTEM THAT STATES CAN'T AFFORD.
IT WILL BE SCARCITY. PEOPLE WON'T HAVE COVERAGE.
YOU'LL PUT IT BACK IN AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO GO AFTER SINGLE PAYER.
>> AND THERE'S NOT ONE SANE PERSON ON THE DECK.
A MODERN ECONOMIST, BUSINESS LEADERS THAT HAVE LOOKED AT
MEDICARE -- IF YOU DON'T -- THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND IN ITS CURRENT
FORM IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. BERNIE WILL BE GOING OUT THERE
GIVING LINDSAY GRAM ALL OF TH O BIGGEST TARGET IN THE WORLD.
SUDDENLY HERE IS RADICAL PLAN DOESN'T LOOK SO RADICAL.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN ANNOUNCED THAT DEMOCRATS SHOULD GO TO BERNIE
AND SAY FOR THE SAKE OF US, FOR THE SAKE OF MILLIONS OF MILLIONS
OF AMERICANS YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT SATURDAY.
>> YEAH. YOU CAN'T BELIEVE -- AND I KNOW
THAT THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN WORK AROUND THE CLOCK
TO MAKE THIS FRONT AND CENTER. THEY HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH

THEY HAVE HAD TO REALLY WORK HARD TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THIS IS
GETTING THE ATTENTION IT DESERVES.
THEY HAVE BEEN CELEBRATING THEY HAVE GOT THIS ON BOARD.
ALONG COMES BERNIE SANDERS AND TOTALLY DISTRACTS THE ATTENTION.
WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY AMY HAS SIGNED ONTO THIS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY SHE IS DOING IT.
>> I'LL SAY THAT EVEN IN THE NARROWEST SENSE FOR BERNIE
SANDERS OWN POLITICS, IF BERNIE SANDERS WANTS TO RUN FOR
PRESIDENT IN 2020, THE REALITY IS RIGHT NOW THE BIGGEST
WEAKNESS HE HAS -- WHICH A LOT OF DEMOCRATS AGREE WITH.
HE IS OUT FOR HIMSELF. THERE ARE A LOT OF DEMOCRATS WHO
FEEL THAT WAY. HIM DOING THIS ON HIS OWN NARROW
SELF-INTEREST WILL MAKE THAT ARGUMENT MORE POWERFUL FOR THOSE
WHO SAY THIS GUY IS NOT A TEAM PLAYER.
THIS GUY IS OUT FOR HIMSELF. IT'S BAD FOR THE DEBATE.
IT'S BAD FOR THE PARTY. IT'S BAD FOR -- IT'S
STRATEGICALLY BAD AND BAD FOR SANDERS ON HIS OWN NARROW
SELFISH TERMS. >> THE BERNIE SANDERS DEBATE IS
PROBABLY A BAD IDEA. I DON'T THINK THEY WILL SIT AND
WATCH THAT AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT?
MAYBE BERNIE IS RIGHT. IN OTHER WORDS IT'S A
THEORETICAL DEBATE. WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD
IS WHERE LISA VOTES. >> IF YOU MAKE IT A CHOICE --
AND THERE WILL BE A LOT OF POLLING NEXT WEEK.
IT WILL POLL THE LOW 20s, HIGH TEENS AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
JOHN McCAIN AND SUSAN COLLINS, ALL OF THESE OTHER REPUBLICANS
WILL LOOK AT IT AND SAY WAIT A SECOND.
YOU WANT ME TO GO OUT AND BASICALLY SCREW MY LEGACY OVER A
BILL THAT 80% OF AMERICANS ARE OPPOSED TO?
LET'S HAVE THE BERNIE DEBATE. JUST FULL BLOWN HEALTH CARE
SOCIALISM VERSUS STATES RIGHTS. >> AND DON'T VOTE FOR THIS.
>> LET'S HAVE THAT. >> AND THEN SUDDENLY WHEN THEY
GO TO VOTE ON SATURDAY I GUARANTEE YOU THERE WILL BE POLL
THAT IS SHOW 40% OF AMERICANS SUPPORT GRAM'S BILL.
SUDDENLY HE IS WAITING 75 OR 80% OF REPUBLICANS IN MY STATE WANT
ME TO VOTE FOR THIS? YOU TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT
WILL PUSH TRIABLISM. BERNIE SANDERS PREACHING
SOCIALISM WILL DO THAT. >> JUST THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE SEEN IN 2017 IS AS WE DEBATED IT MORE
ALL THAT'S REALLY HAPPENED IS THAT OBAMACARE HAS GOTTEN MORE
POPULAR. >> RIGHT.
>> WHICH DEBATE DO YOU WANT? DO YOU WANT A DEBATE BETWEEN THE
HORRIBLE BILL AND THE INCREASINGLY POSSIBLE STATUS QUO
OR DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A DEBATE BETWEEN THE GRAM CASSIDY BILL
AND THIS WHICH IS MORE POPULAR BUT IT'S NOT MORE POPULAR THAN
THE CURRENT SYSTEM. HAVE THE DEBATE YOU WANT TO HAVE
WHICH IS
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