PART OF THE RUSSIAN INVESTIGATION APPARENTLY HAS
SOME REPUBLICAN NUMBERS OF CONGRESS CONCERNED, SO AS A
RESULT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO AWAY WITH SOME OF THE RESOURCES
THAT ARE BEING ALLOCATED TOWARD THAT INVESTIGATION.
CASE IN
POINT, REPRESENTATIVE RON DESANTIS, WHO IS PUSHING FOR AN
AMENDMENT TO CURTAIL ROBERT MUELLER'S INVESTIGATION INTO
RUSSIAN COLLUSION --
IT WOULD LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THE INVESTIGATION
COULD TAKE PLACE --
NOW, THAT IS A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE ONE OF THE
CONCERNS IS THAT TRUMP MAY HAVE WORKED ON SOME SORT OF FINANCIAL
DEAL WITH RUSSIAN OFFICIALS, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD HAVE AN
IMPACT, THAT WOULD MATTER, THERE WOULD BE A HUGE ISSUE THERE.
A
CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH HIS BUSINESSES, WHO KNOWS WHAT COULD
TURN UP.
THEY WANT TO LIMIT THE SCOPE OF THIS INVESTIGATION, AND
THE FACT THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO PROTECT TRUMP IS A LITTLE
CONCERNING --
THESE ARE THINGS THAT I'M SURE DESANTIS COULD NOT STOP
SAYING WHEN KENNETH STARR WAS INVESTIGATING BILL CLINTON AND
WHITEWATER.
THESE ARE QUOTES FROM RON DESANTIS, THEN NOT EVEN
A CONGRESSMAN, SAYING THOSE SAME THINGS -- THIS IS RIDICULOUS, IT
IS THE MOST POLITICAL, SPEAKING OUT OF TWO SIDES OF THEIR
MOUTH THING EVER.
IT'S INCREDIBLE THAT YOU WOULD IDENTIFY YOURSELF AS SOMEONE WHO
ESSENTIALLY WANTS TO HALT AN INVESTIGATION INTO A FOREIGN
COUNTRY MEDDLING IN OUR ELECTION.
YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR
NAME ON THAT?
THAT'S DISGUSTING --
THIS HOPEFULLY WILL BE SORT OF A SYMBOLIC AMENDMENT HE'S
PUTTING FORWARD, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN CONGRESS, LOTS
OF AMENDMENTS DON'T MAKE IT OUT OF THE RULES COMMITTEE.
DESANTIS IN THIS HAS ALSO SAID THERE IS NO CRIME, HOW CAN WE
HAVE A SPECIAL COUNSEL -- HE'S NOT A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR, HE'S A
SPECIAL COUNSEL, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
WHEN YOU LISTEN TO
HOW THESE THINGS ARE WORDED, YOU HAVE TO LOOK DEEPER, DESANTIS
WROTE A BOOK CALLED "DREAMS OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS," WHICH WAS
NOT A PARITY, BUT SOMETHING ABOUT GETTING BY IN THE AGE OF
OBAMA, WHO WROTE "DREAMS OF MY FATHER."
THIS HAS GONE ON WITH
DESANTIS FOR A LONG TIME.
THIS IS LIKELY A SYMBOLIC EFFORT.
USUALLY WHEN LAWMAKERS
GO THROUGH WITH THESE SYMBOLIC EFFORTS IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE
PANDERING TO THEIR BASE, OR IT WILL MAKE THEM LOOK GOOD IN SOME
WAY.
HOW DOES IT MAKE SOMEONE LOOK GOOD WHEN THEY ARE TRYING
TO ESSENTIALLY HOLD AN INVESTIGATION?
AND PAUL RYAN, THE SPEAKER, THE LAST TIME HE TALKED ABOUT
ROBERT MUELLER AND THIS INVESTIGATION, HE SAID HE'S A
GOOD MAN AND HE SHOULD STAY IN THERE AND HAVE OUR SUPPORT.
IF
THIS SNEAKS OUT OF THE RULES COMMITTEE AND GETS THE FLOOR OF
CONGRESS IT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT COULD GET REAL SUPPORT FROM
THE PUBLICANS WHO WANT DISTINCT END.
BUT THERE ARE REPUBLICANS
WHO DON'T LIKE THE PRESIDENT TOO, WHO WANT TO SEE THIS
CONTINUE.
IF I WERE A REPUBLICAN I WILL TRY TO BE A LEADER AND REALIZE
THAT SOMEONE LIKE DONALD TRUMP -- IT'S HILARIOUS BECAUSE WE
DON'T SEE A LOT OF LEADERSHIP IN CONGRESS RIGHT NOW -- BUT IF I
WERE A LAWMAKER I WOULD STAND UP AND SAY HEY, I DON'T CARE WHAT
THE PRESIDENT IDENTIFIES AS, I DON'T CARE IF HE IS A STAUNCH
CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN, HE DOESN'T SPEAK FOR ME, HE IS
DANGEROUS AND DAMAGING TO THE COUNTRY.
BUT YOU DON'T SEE THAT
KIND OF LEADERSHIP.
YOU DO AMONG SOME REPUBLICAN SENATORS, NAMELY
THE SENATORS WHO SPOKE UP AGAINST TRUMP DURING THIS WHOLE
HEALTH CARE DEBATE -- JOHN MCCAIN HAS SPOKEN OUT AGAINST
HIM ON VARIOUS OCCASIONS -- BUT OVERALL YOU SEE THE POLARIZATION
PLAYING OUT.
WE SUPPORT OUR OWN NO MATTER WHAT, EVEN IF THEY HAD
UNLAWFUL DEALINGS, POTENTIALLY UNLAWFUL DEALINGS, WITH FOREIGN
OFFICIALS.
YOU MIGHT BE WONDERING, WHY IS THIS SUCH A
BIG DEAL?
AS ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE TURNED UP FROM THIS
RUSSIA INVITATION?
WELL, YES IT HAS, SO I WANT TO GET TO THAT.
APPARENTLY THE INVESTIGATION HAS FOUND AN EMAIL EXCHANGE BETWEEN
MICHAEL COHEN, TRUMP'S LONGTIME BUSINESS ADVISOR, AND ONE OF
PUTIN'S LIEUTENANTS, WHOSE NAME IS DMITRY PESKOV.
HE ASKED FOR
ASSISTANCE REVIVING A TRUMP DEAL IN RUSSIA, A TRUMP TOWER TO
BE BUILT IN RUSSIA.
MICHAEL COHEN HAD WRITTEN TO PESKOV --
OBVIOUSLY THAT EMAIL RAISED SOME CONCERNS, THE INVESTIGATION
HAS LED TO OFFICIALS NOW TALKING TO COHEN AND TRYING TO GET SOME
CLARIFICATION ON WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE --
SO THERE IS A LOT MORE TO THIS, INCLUDING THE INVOLVEMENT
OF FELIX SATER, A RUSSIAN BROKER INVOLVED IN THIS DEAL, AND
SOME PROMISES HE MADE IN THESE EXCHANGES, WE WILL GET TO
THAT IN A SECOND, BUT WHAT IS YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THIS?
MY ASSESSMENT IS THIS IS A REAL STORY, THIS IS WHAT YOU GET
FROM REAL REPORTING.
YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT HAS ANYTHING COME
FROM
THIS INVESTIGATION, DO WE
KNOW ANYTHING FROM MUELLER -- WE
WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO KNOW, A GOOD INVESTIGATION MEANS YOU WON'T
KNOW ANYTHING FOR A WHILE, MUELLER WANTS THIS TO BE
LEAK-PROOF, BUT WHEN WE HEAR STORIES LIKE THIS, COMING FROM
REPORTING OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS INVESTIGATION, THIS IS MORE
STUFF FOR MUELLER TO CHEW ON.
THIS IS COMING FROM MUELLER,
THAT SHOULD BE MADE CLEAR.
THIS IS DONALD TRUMP WORKING AS A
CANDIDATE LOOKING FOR DEALS THAT WOULD BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST
BOTH AS A CANDIDATE AND A NOMINEE, AND AS A PRESIDENT.
THIS IS A SERIOUS STORY, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM HAVE NOT BEEN
SERIOUS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE WASHINGTON POST AND A LOT
FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES, THEY ALL MATTER, THAT'S WHY THERE IS
A SPECIAL COUNSEL WORKING ON IT.
THERE IS, AND YOU HAVE REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS TRYING TO
DRAIN THE RESOURCES FROM THIS INVESTIGATION SO IT DOESN'T
CONTINUE.
SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT TRUMP CLAIMS HE
KNOWS AND DOESN'T KNOW --
IN TERMS OF THE EMAIL THAT COHEN HAD SINCE TWO PESKOV,
TRUMP ALLEGEDLY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, HE WAS
COMPLETELY UNAWARE -- IF YOU CHOOSE TO BELIEVE HIM THAT'S ON
YOU, THAT'S WHAT HE ALLEGES -- BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING
INTERESTING REGARDING A BROKER IN THIS DEAL BY THE NAME OF
FELIX SATER, HE'S A RUSSIAN-AMERICAN BUSINESSMAN WHO
LIVED IN TRUMP TOWER --
HERE'S HIS EXACT MESSAGE, HE SAID --
NOW, THE DEAL NEVER WENT THROUGH, THEY SAY THAT THE
PROJECT NEVER WENT THROUGH, EVERYTHING STALLED, BUT
THESE EXCHANGES ARE IMPORTANT.
THIS SINGLE EMAIL IS MORE DAMNING THAN ANY OTHER EMAIL
THAN ANY EMAIL THAT ANYONE HAS EVER READ ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON,
FROM THE DNC, FROM THE RNC, THIS IS SERIOUS MEAT TO SOMETHING
THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN AMERICAN POLITICS, WHICH IS
MEDDLING FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY IN OUR ELECTION PROCESS.
THAT'S
WHAT THIS WAS INVITING, THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS SUGGESTING WAS
GOING ON, WHETHER THE DEAL HAPPEN OR NOT -- TRUMP PEOPLE
WILL SAY THE DEAL NEVER HAPPENED, THIS IS ALL HEARSAY --
THE FACT THAT THE DEAL DIDN'T HAPPEN, WE KNOW TRUMP HAS FAILED
DEALS, WE KNOW HE HAS DEALS THAT DON'T HAPPEN, HE HAS BEEN A
FAILED AND SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMEN AT DIFFERENT TIMES,
BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THESE EMAILS, WHEN YOU SMELL A RAT,
THIS IS SMELLING A RAT, THAT'S WHY THERE IS AN INVESTIGATION
GOING ON BOTH IN CONGRESS AND WITH THE SPECIAL COUNSEL.
THIS IS PERFECT FOR THAT.
ONE FINAL POINT ABOUT SATER, JUST SO YOU KNOW ALL THE
CHARACTERS THAT PLAY INTO THIS WHOLE STORY, SATER HAS A
CRIMINAL RECORD --
SO YOU KIND OF GET A SENSE OF WHO THIS GUY IS, I THINK IT'S
RELEVANT.
BUT ONE THING I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS WHAT JUST
HAPPENED WITH DONALD TRUMP GIVING A PARDON TO SHERIFF JOE
ARPAIO, FORMER SHERIFF OF MARICOPA COUNTY, ARIZONA.
HE WAS
FOUND IN CONTEMPT OF COURT, CRIMINAL CONTEMPT OF COURT, A
FEDERAL JUDGE FOUND HIM GUILTY AND HE WAS PARDONED.
SO SOME ARE
NOW SPECULATING THAT DONALD TRUMP COULD POTENTIALLY PARDON
PEOPLE LIKE PAUL MANAFORT IF THEY ARE FOUND IN CONTEMPT OF
COURT FOR REFUSING TO COOPERATE WITH THIS INVESTIGATION.
HE ABSOLUTELY COULD.
THE PRESIDENT CAN PARDON WHOEVER HE
WANTS.
ARPAIO WAS PARDONED -- HIS CRIME, BESIDES CONTEMPT OF
COURT, WAS VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF U.S. --
OF PEOPLE ON U.S. SOIL.
AND THAT HE COULD PARDON SOMEONE FOR THAT
REALLY TO ME IS CHALLENGEABLE IN THE COURTS, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN
PARDON ANYONE WHO VIOLATES CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, THAT IS
DIFFERENT THAN THIS GUY SERVED TIME IN THE 1970S FOR DRUGS, HIS
SENTENCE IS DONE, THAT IS WHY THERE ARE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHO SHOULD BE PARDON, ALTHOUGH ANY
PRESIDENT CAN PARDON WHOEVER THEY WANT.
BUT AS YOU POINTED
OUT, WITH SATER AND MANAFORT, THESE PEOPLE HE SURROUNDS
HIMSELF WITH -- ARPAIO WAS A POLITICAL PARDON, DONALD TRUMP
PLAYS LOW IN THE GAME LIKE THAT, HE KNOWS THE AIR WAS ON A SENATE
RACE IS UP, HE DOESN'T LIKE JEFF FLAKE, HE WANTS TO STICK IT TO
HIM AND HE CAN GET SOME PARTISANS ON HIS SITE FOR DOING
THAT, I THINK IT WAS A POLITICAL BUT IT SETS A TERRIBLE
PRECEDENT.
ABSOLUTELY.
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