'War Of Words' Between President Donald Trump, Kim Jong Un Continues | Morning Joe

>>> IT'S A GREAT HONOR AND PRIVILEGE.
HE'S BECOME A FRIEND OF MINE, TO INTRODUCE PRESIDENT ERDOGAN OF
TURKEY. HE'S RUNNING A VERY DIFFICULT
PART OF THE WORLD. HE'S INVOLVED VERY STRONGLY, AND
FRANKLY, HE'S GETTING VERY HIGH MARKS.
>> FRANKLY, HE'S A THUG. AND HUMAN RIGHTS IN HIS COUNTRY,
PREZ RIGHTS IN HIS COUNTRY, HAVE ALL GONE UP IN SMOKE.
THIS WAS A PLACE THAT WAS A STABILITY, WAS AN OASIS OF
STABILITY, AND FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE AT LEAST A DECADE AGO,
CATTY CAY, THOUGHT THAT TURKEY WAS HOPEFULLY THE FUTURE OF THE
MIDDLE EAST. A GATEWAY BETWEEN EUROPE AND THE
MIDDLE EAST, AND IT'S -- SIN THIS THUG HAS TAKEN OVER, IT'S
GONE IN A TERRIBLE DIRECTION. >> IT WAS A SECULAR MUSLIM
COUNTRY >> U.S. DOTARD.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT KIM IS IN A POSITION WHERE HE'S DOING
SOMETHING HE'S NEVER BEEN BEFORE WHICH IS TO HAVE IT BE THIS
STATEMENT? >> WHAT KIM JONG-UN IS TRYING TO
DO IS SORT OF MIMIC HIS GRANDFATHER?
HE IS CHARISMATIC. HE'S TRYING TO TALK DIRECTLY TO
PEOPLE. ALSO WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST
SEVERAL MONTHS OR SO, KIM HAS BEEN QUOTED BY STATE MEDIA, NOT
STATEMENTS BUT QUOTED BY STATE MEDIA IN HIS WORDS.
THIS IS A REAL INDICATION HE'S TRYING TO BUILD A RAPPORT AND
REACH OUT TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.
THIS IS AN INDICATION OF HIS AMBITIONS AND MENTALITY.
>> AMBASSADOR BURNS, WE'RE FOLLOWING DEVELOPMENTS OUT OF
IRAN. THE PRESIDENT SAYING THE COUNTRY
WILL BOOST ITS MISSILE CAPABILITIES ACCORDING TO TO
STATE TV. HE MADE THE REMARKS THIS MORNING
DURING A PARADE OF ARMED FORCES IN THE CAPITAL CITY OF TEHRAN.
HE ALLEGEDLY ADDED THEY WILL NOT SEEK PERMISSION TO BOOST THEIR
CAPABILITIES AND IRAN WILL INCREASE THE MILITARY POWER AS A
DETERRENT. WHAT IS THE MESSAGE AND WHO IS
HE SPEAKING TO HERE? >> WELL, HE'S SPEAKING TO THE
SUNNI ARABS WHO ARE HIS OPPONENTS, THE UNITED STATES AND
THE EUROPEANS. HERE I THINK THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION HAS AN OPPORTUNITY.
AND THE OPPORTUNITY IS THIS. IRAN'S TRYING TO PUNCH A BIG
HOLE IN THE SUNNI WORLD. THEY'VE BEEN THE PROBLEM STOKING
VIOLENCE AS YOU KNOW IN IRAQ, SYRIA, YEMEN, AND LEBANON.
IF PRESIDENT TRUMP WOULD TALK TO THAT SIDE OF THE IRAN PROBLEM,
HE'D HAVE LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE EUROPEANS AND SUNNI ARABS
AND I THINK A LOT OF DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS ARE
SYMPATHETIC TO THE FACT THAT WE NEED LIMITS ON IRAN'S BALLISTIC
MISSILE ACTIVITIES. WHAT DID THE PRESIDENT DO THIS
WEEK? HE FOCUSSED ON THE IRAN NUCLEAR
DEAL. IT WOULD BE A LOSER FOR THE
UNITED STATES IF WE WALKED OUT OF THAT.
THERE'S TWO IRAN PROBLEMS. WE HAVE THEM FROZEN ON THE
NUCLEAR SIDE FOR AT LEAST A DECADE.
WE SHOULD KEEP THAT DEAL AND FOCUS ON THE OTHER BIG PROBLEM.
>> NICK BURNS, IT'S KATTY HERE. THE PRESIDENT HAS PROBLEMS
RALLYING THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY AND ALLIES WHEN IT
COMES TO GETTING RID OF THE IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL.
I WONDER ABOUT THE LANGUAGE AND THE WAR OF WORDS WITH KIM
JONG-UN. IS THAT ALSO RISKING ALIENATING
FOREIGN OPINION AND ALLIES? BECAUSE ARE THEY GOING TO LOOK
AT THIS AND SAY WHAT'S THE PRESIDENT DOING?
WE WANT TO GET ON BOARD ON NORTH KOREA.
WE DO. WE ARE IN THE SAME PLACE, BUT
THIS ISN'T HELPING. >> WELL, KATTY, IT'S A GOOD
QUESTION. I THINK EVERYBODY REALIZES IT'S
KIM JONG-UN THAT'S THE PROBLEM. DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T START THE
NORTH KOREA CRISIS, BUT THE SPEECH ON TUESDAY THAT PRESIDENT
TRUMP GAVE WAS SO BOMBASTIC AND SO SHRILL.
IT WAS THE WRONG WORDS, WRONG AUDIENCE, THAT I THINK HE HAS A
PROBLEM WITH PUBLIC OPINION IN SOUTH KOREA AND JAPAN.
HE HAS THE SUPPORT OF THE TWO GOVERNMENTS BUT PEOPLE DON'T
WANT A WAR ON THE KOREAN PENINSULA.
WE NEED TO ACT AS I SAID BEFORE, IN A DEFENSIVE WAY.
VERY STRONG. WE'RE IN THE RIGHT HERE.
BUT IF WE PROMISE TO RAIN DOWN FIRE ON THE NORTH KOREANS,
YOU'RE GOING TO WORRY A LOT OF JAPANESE AND SOUTH KOREAN
CIVILIANS, AND YOU WANT THAT PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR WHAT WE'RE
TRYING TO DO AS WELL. >> GORDAN, YOU HAVE A CLEAR-EYED
VIEW OF NORTH KOREA. YOU SEE THROUGH THE RHETORIC
THROUGH THE YEARS BECAUSE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT COUNTRY SO WELL.
HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU RIGHT NOW ABOUT THE LEVEL OF RHETORIC AND
THE ABILITY OF NORTH KOREA NOW TO BACK UP WHAT FAR LONG TIME
HAS BEEN ESSENTIALLY TRASH TALK ON THE WORLD STAGE?
>> TWO THINGS. FOREIGN MINISTER YESTERDAY
TALKED ABOUT AN ATMOSPHERIC TEST OVER THE PACIFIC.
THEY'RE TRYING TO SHOW THEY CAN INTEGRATE ALL THEIR CAPABILITIES
AND HOLD ANY COUNTRY AT RISK. SO THAT IS IMPORTANT.
IT'S MORE THAN JUST WORDS. THE OTHER THING, THOUGH, I THINK
THE NORTH KOREANS ARE NOW ON THE BACK FOOT.
BECAUSE THE FOREIGN MINISTER WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE HIS U.N.
GENERAL ASSEMBLY SPEECH TODAY, AND HE'S POSTPONED IT
INDEFINITELY BECAUSE I THINK THE NORTH KOREAN REGIME DOES NOT
KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO TRUMP, AND IT DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO
RESPOND TO CHINA. WHAT TRUMP JUST DID WAS HE
INTIMIDATED CHINA INTO GETTING THEIR BANKS TO STOP ALL THEIR
BUSINESS WITH THE NORTH KOREANS. THAT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL,
BECAUSE OF GIFT POLITICS. WE TALK ABOUT THE MONEY GOING TO
THE WEAPONS PROGRAMS. AS IMPORTANT IS THE MONEY GOING
TO THE REGIME ELEMENTS, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW KIM KEEPS THE
LOYALTY. >> SO YOU'RE AGREEING WITH
AMBASSADOR BURNS THAT REALLY THE BIG NEWS OF THIS WEEK, PUT ON
THE BOMBAST ASIDE, THE BIG NEWS OF THE WEEK ARE SANCTIONS THAT
ACTUALLY MATTER? >> YES.
I MEAN, THESE ARE SANCTIONS THAT COULD ACTUALLY SOLVE THIS ISSUE
PEACEFULLY. THAT MEANS THE TREASURY
DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO GO AFTER ALL OF THESE DOLLAR TRANSACTIONS
AROUND THE WORLD. THAT'S DIFFICULT.
THEY'RE UNDERSTAFFED RIGHT NOW. THEY WERE UNDERSTAFFED LAST
WEEK. THEY ARE TERRIBLY JUST STAFFED
NOW. THIS IMPOSES SO MANY MORE
BURDENS ON THE PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO GET A BIG EASTER
EGG HUNT AROUND THE WORLD TRYING TO FIND ALL THIS MONEY GOING TO
THE NORTH KOREANS. AND THAT TAKES A LOT OF PEOPLE
TO DO. >> YEAH.
>> WOW. AMBASSADOR NICHOLAS BURNS AND
GORDAN CHANG, THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING ON THE SHOW THIS MORNING.
>> THANK YOU, GUYS. UP NEXT, FACEBOOK CEO MARK
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