Congressman On Why He's Against Bipartisan Deal | Morning Joe

REPUBLICAN LAMAR ALEXANDER AND DEMOCRAT PATTI MURRY NEARING AN
AGREEMENT ON THE COMPROMISE. UNDER THE FRAMEWORK THE DEAL
LIKELY WILL FUND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT SUBSIDIES THROUGH 2019, LET
AGES 30 AND OVER BUY CATASTROPHIC PLANS, PUT $106
MILLION BACK INTO PROMOTING OBAMACARE ENROLLMENT AND MAKE IT
EASIER FOR STATES TO GET ACA WAIVERS WHILE ALLOWING
INTERSTATE COMPACTS FOR PURCHASES, GETTING RID OF THE
SO-CALLED LINES. PRESIDENT TRUMP YESTERDAY SEEMED
TO WELCOME THE BIPARTISANSHIP BUT A SPOKESMAN SAID HE WAS
ABSOLUTELY NOT ENDORSING THE DEAL.
CONGRESSMAN MARK WALKER OF NORTH CAROLINA.
CONGRESSMAN, GOOD MORNING. GOOD TO SEE YOU.
WHAT'S THE TAKE ON WHAT CAME UP BETWEEN SENATORS ALEXANDER AND
MURRAY? WOULD IT PASS THROUGH THE HOUSE?
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD. CERTAINLY IT'S A CONCERN OF
OURS. WE WANT TO SEE MORE OF IT.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE, TO USE SENATOR ALEXANDER'S
QUOTE, THAT WE HAVE AN EMERGING, ENCOURAGING CONSENSUS.
IF THAT'S NOT WASHINGTON SPEECH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.
WE'VE ALSO SEEN CHUCK SCHUMER SAY THAT HE WAS PLEASED WITH THE
AGREEMENT. THOSE ARE SOME CAUTION FLAGS.
THERE MAY BE SOME LOOK FROM A TEMPORARY STANDPOINT.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THESE HAVE BEEN RULED ILLEGAL
BEFORE AND THESE BAILOUTS CONTINUE TO PROP UP THE
INSURANCE COMPANIES. PEOPLE ARE HURTING UNDER
OBAMACARE. INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE NOT.
>> ALEXANDER MURRAY WOULD PROP UP THE CSRs FOR A COUPLE OF
YEARS ANYWAY. DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE PATENTLY
AGAINST ALEXANDER MURRAY RIGHT NOW?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD SAY PATENTLY AGAINST BUT STRONGLY
AGAINST AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE MAJOR CONCERNS OF WHAT
OBAMAKERATINS TO DO. NOT JUST PEOPLE IN NORTH
CAROLINA BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. >> SO, CONGRESSMAN, JOE
SCARBOROUGH HERE. WHAT WOULD YOU BE FOR?
HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT IF OBAMACARE IS PUSHED TO THE SIDE
THERE WILL BE A REPLACEMENT THAT WON'T LEAVE MILLIONS OF
AMERICANS WITHOUT INSURANCE? >> WELL, I BELIEVE WHAT WE'VE
WORKED ON IN THE HOUSE IS CERTAINLY A COMPROMISE THAT WE
FEEL LIKE THAT DOES OFFER PEOPLE MORE OPPORTUNITIES, MORE
CHOICES. TWO DAYS AGO, EVEN BEFORE WE
KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING ON YOUR PROGRAM I HEARD FROM A MAN IN
NORTH CAROLINA WHO HAS CANCER. AND NOT JUST TO CREATE ANOTHER
SAD STORY BUT HIS PREMIUMS ARE GETTING READY TO GO $1,500 TO
$3,000. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HURTING.
I UNDERSTAND THAT. THERE ARE ALSO PEOPLE STRUGGLING
UNDER THE INCREASED PREMIUMS, AVERAGE OF $3,700 PEOPLE IN THE
INDIVIDUAL MARKET HERE IN NORTH CAROLINA.
>> SO, CONGRESSMAN, OTHER THAN A FEW -- PROBABLY NOT MORE THAN A
FEW LOBBYISTS IN WASHINGTON, NOBODY I KNOW LIKES THE
INSURANCE COMPANIES. BUT WITHOUT THIS OCCURRING TO
PROP UP THE INSURANCE COMPANIES IN TERMS OF HELPING PEOPLE OF
LOWER INCOMES GET HEALTH CARE, WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE PEOPLE?
YOU JUST REFERENCED, YOU KNKNOW THE HURT, THE POOR.
WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM? >> WELL, I BELIEVE IF WE NEED TO
LOOK AT SOME KIND OF TEMPORARY PROPOSAL, WE CAN.
AT WHICH POINT DO WE UNDERSTAND OR ASK THE QUESTION, HOW MANY
DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS OR COMPANIES OR MARKETS DOES
CONGRESS PLAY IN? WITH WASHINGTON PICKING THESE
WINNERS AND LOSERS AS FAR AS WHERE THESE CHECK SHOULD BE
DIRECTLY CUT, IN THIS CASE TO THE INSURANCE COMPANIES.
WHICH LINE DO WE DRAW THE LINE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT?
WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO FUND THIS WE'RE RUNNING AT A $700 BILLION
DEFICIT PER YEAR. IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT
COMPASSIONATE. I WAS A FORMER PASTOR FOR 18
YEARS. I'VE BEEN HEARING SOME OF THE
HEARTACHE EVEN EARLIER IN YOUR SHOW, SOME OF THE THINGS WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT. WE NEED TO BE SURE WE'RE BEING
GOOD STEWARDS WITH THE TAXPAYER'S DOLLAR.
>> CONGRESSMAN, GOOD MORNING. PEGGY NOONAN HERE.
>> GOOD MORNING. >> I'M CURIOUS WHEN YOU TALK
ABOUT THIS. MY SENSE OF HEALTH CARE, VARIOUS
HEALTH CARE REPLACEMENTS AND BILLS, ET CETERA, THESE ISSUES
OBSESS AMERICANS AND IT'S SOMETHING ON THEIR MINDS.
AND YET NOBODY EVER KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT THESE PHRASES ABOUT CSRs AND BAILOUTS AND PERCENTAGES OF
THE GIVEBACK THAT MIGHT COME PARTIALLY FROM THE STATE AND THE
FED, MAYBE THE COUNTY. DO YOU FIND IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE
TO TALK CLEARLY TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN A WAY THAT THEY
UNDERSTAND ABOUT HEALTH CARE? I MEAN, DO YOU ALL HAVE IT
STRAIGHT? I MUST ADMIT I WATCH TV EVERY
DAY. I GET CONFUSED EVERY TIME HEALTH
CARE COMES UP. >> PEGGY, THAT'S A GREAT
QUESTION. SOMETIMES WE'VE GOT TO GET
BEYOND THE TALKING POINTS. THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL SIDE,
SMALL BUSINESS SIDE AND EVEN REMEMBERING PRESIDENT CLINTON,
OBAMACARE USED THE WORD KILLING OR CRUSHING SMALL BUSINESSES.
THOSE ARE THINGS WE HAVE TO COUNTER.
THERE ARE FACTORS THAT GO BEYOND THE INDIVIDUALITY OF THIS.
IT IS COMPLEX. I'M NOT MAKING THE CASE THAT THE
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 8 1/2, NINE YEARS AGO WAS IN A GOOD PLACE.
BUT WE CAN ALSO MAKE A STRONG CASE THAT OBAMACARE HAS NOT BEEN
THE SOLUTION.
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