Diplomatic Efforts With North Korea On 'Last Legs': Report | Morning Joe

>>> IN AN NBC NEWS EXCLUSIVE REPORT THIS MORNING, MULTIPLE
SOURCES SAY DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND
NORTH KOREA ARE ON THE VERGE OF COLLAPSING IN THE WORDS OF ONE
U.S. OFFICIAL ON THEIR LAST LEGS.
PYONGYANG HAS REPORTEDLY SHUNNED TALKS WITH THE U.S. AFTER
PRESIDENT TRUMP INCREASED HIS PUBLIC ATTACKS ON NORTH KOREAN
LEADER KIM JONG-UN. ACCORDING TO OFFICIALS, A TOP
AMERICAN DIPLOMAT HAS BEEN WARNING CONGRESS OF THE
BREAKDOWN IN MEETINGS ON CAPITOL HILL A. CONGRESSIONAL AIDE WHO
HAS SPOKEN WITH EUN DIRECTLY TELLS NBC THE DIPLOMAT IS
SEARCHING FOR A HAIL MARY IN AN ATTEMPT TO RESTORE DIALOGUE THE
BREAKDOWN IN TALKS MAY EXPLAIN REPEAT COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF
CONGRESS ON BOTH SIDE, INCLUDING SENATOR BOB CORKER, WHO WARNED
THAT TRUMP WAS UNDER CUTTING DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS.
THE GROWING TENSIONS COME AS PRESIDENT TRUMP PREPARES FOR HIS
FIRST OFFICIAL TRIP TO ASIA NEXT MONTH.
TRUMP'S SCHEDULE IS SET TO INCLUDE VISIT TOSS JAPAN, SOUTH
KOREA AND CHINA, WHERE NORTH KOREA IS EXPECTED TO BE AT THE
TOP OF THE AGENDA. JOINING US FROM WALK, DEMOCRATIC
SENATOR CHRIS MURPHY FROM CONNECTICUT, ALSO WITH US AT THE
TABLE, THE CO-FOUNDER, A PARTNER IN THE STRATEGIC CONSULTING FIRM
RICE, HADLEY GATES, WHICH AS THE NAME SUGGESTS FEATURES FORMER
SECRETARY OF STATE CONDOLEEZA RICE AND SECRETARY OF DEFENSE
BOB GATES, GOOD TO HAVE YOU BOTH ON BOARD, SENATOR MUR FIRST,
I'LL START WITH YOU ABOUT EXACTLY HOW YOU WOULD
CHARACTERIZE THE NATURE OF THE SITUATION WITH NORTH KOREA RIGHT
NOUD AND DO YOU THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP'S NAME-CALLING AT THE
LEADER OF NORTH KOREA HAS PUSHED THIS I THINK SO TO A DANGEROUS
LEVEL? >> IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT OUR
NEGOTIATIONS ARE ON LIFE SUPPORT RIGHT NOW.
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS DEPLOYING WHAT IS PERHAPS THE BOREST
NEGOTIATING STRATEGY IN THE HISTORY OF THE AMERICAN
PRESIDENCY. IT'S NOT JUST THAT HE IS OUT
THERE CALLING THIS GUY NAMES, IT'S THAT HE IS PUBLICLY
UNDERCUTTING HIS DEPARTMENT OF STATE BY TWEETING OUT THAT REX
TILLERSON DOES NOT HAVE HIS SUPPORT AND CANNOT TALK,
NEGOTIATE ON HIS BEHALF. >> SO, NO, WHAT SHOULD WE, DO
OBVIOUSLY GOING BACK TO 1994, WE'VE HAD ONE FAILED EFFORT
AFTER ANOTHER IN NEW YORK, WHAT IS THE RIGHT PATH FORWARD?
OBVIOUSLY, WE AGREE IT'S NOT DOING WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS
DOING? >> YOU GOT TO EMPOWER YOUR
DIPLOMATS, TRUMP IS NOT WRONG TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE NORTH
KOREANS WE HAVE A MILITARY OPTION, WE CAN TAKE THEM OUT IF
THEY WOULD ATTACK OR THREAT ON THE ATTACK US OR OUR ALLIES, YOU
HAVE TO EMPOWER YOUR DIPLOMAT TOSS DO THE WORK.
YOU GOT TO COMMUNICATE THE PREVIOUS NUCLEAR DEALS THE OTHER
PRESIDENTS HAVE SIGNED ARE STILL GOOD, YOU ARE NOT INCENTIVIZING
THE NORTH KOREANS THE ENTER INTO THEIR OWN AGREEMENT.
EIGHTH COMBINATION OF MILITARY THREATS, BILATERAL, ECONOMIC
SANCTIONS, WITH I THIS PRESIDENT CANNOT PUT TOKE, BECAUSE SHE OUT
THERE INSULTING ALL OF THE ALLIES WHO WOULD WORK WITH US ON
SANCTIONS AND EMPOWERING YOUR DIPLOMATS.
HE IS DOING NOTHING OF THE THINGS NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE A
REAL DIPLOMATIC BREAK THROUGH ON NORTH KOREA.
>> IT FEELS LIKE FOR MANY YEARS NORTH KOREAN LEADERS HAVE BEEN
VIEWED AT AS CRAZY AND LAUGHED AT BY PEOPLE BY THEIR OUTRAGEOUS
CLAIMS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WHERE ARE YOU IN TERMS OF HOW
SERIOUS TO TAKE RHETORIC OUT OF NORTH KOREA?
THE THINGS THEY'VE SAID FOR MANY YEARS THEY'RE NOW SAYING HAVE A
LITTLE MORE WEIGHT BEHIND THEM? ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT A
NUCLEAR CONFRONTATION OR ANY CONFRONTATION WITH NORTH KOREA
RIGHT NOW? >> ABSOLUTELY AND WE SHOULDN'T
BE LAUGHING AT THE RHETORIC COMING OUT.
I THINK KIM JONG-UN IS MORE DANGEROUS AND MORE ERRATIC THAN
HIS FATHER AND GRANDFATHER. ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN THE
THIRD U.S. PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION, FOURTH THAT'S
TRYING TO RESOLVE THIS PROBLEM, THE NUCLEAR THREAT FROM NORTH
KOREA IS ONLY GETTING WORSE AND WORSE.
I DO AGREE WITH SENATOR MURPHY WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR
DIPLOMATS. IT'S GOING TO, HOWEVER, ALL
CREDIT TO JOSEPH HEUN FOR KEEPING THOSE CHANNELS OPENED.
YOU NEED SOUTH KOREA, JAPAN, CHINA, ALL ON BOARD, ESPECIALLY
CHINA AND I WOULD SAY IF THERE IS ONE VERY NARROW SILVER LINING
IN ALL THIS I WAS JUST IN D.C. AND HEARD THAT AT LEAST THE
CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE U.S. AND THE CHINESE ON NORTH KOREA
ARE THE MOST DETAILED AND THE MOST SCENARIO PLANNING WE'VE
EVER DONE. NOT TO SAY THAT THAT WILL
RESOLVE IT. BUT AT LEAST SOME FORM OF
DIPLOMACY IS STILL BEING GIVEN A CHANCE DESPITE THE PRESIDENCY.
>> WOULDN'T YOU SAY KIM JONG-UN IS MORE ERRATIC AND DANGEROUS,
COULD YOU LOOK AT, FOR INSTANCE, WHATTED TO GADHAFI?
WHEN HE -- WHAT HAPPENED TO GADHAFI WHEN HE GAVE UP HIS
WMDs, IF HE WANT TOSS STAY ALIVE THIS MAY BE THE MOST RATIONAL
THING FOR HIM TO DO? >> IT'S A GOOD POINT, IF REGIME
SURVIVAL IS YOUR GOAL, CLEARLY HAVING NUCLEAR WEAPONS A DECENT
WAY TO DO. THAT AS LONG AS YOU DON'T DEPLOY
THEM. I THINK ARE YOU RIGHT, BOTH WHAT
SENATOR MURPHY SAID, BACKING OUT OF THE IRAN DEAL DOESN'T GIVE US
A WHOLE LOT OF CREDIBILITY. BACKING OUT, YOU KNOW, GADHAFI
GAVE UP HIS NUCLEAR WEAPONS. WE THEN INVADED LIBYA.
>> THAT DOESN'T GIVE US A LOT OF CREDIBLE HERE.
I DO THINK DIPLOMACY IS THE ONLY WAY FORD AND I'M GLAD THAT THERE
ARE STILL EFFORTS BEING MADE. >> SO SENATOR MURPHY, DIPLOMACY
IS THE ONLY WAY FORWARD, EMPOW TER DIPLOMATS AS YOU JUST SAID
THE SECRETARY OF STATE WAS IN PAKISTAN YESTERDAY, AN ALLIE,
NOT AN ALLIE? WE'RE NOT SURE, NORTH KOREA ON
THE PRECIPICE OF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT?
IF YOU WERE ASKED, IF YOU WERE OVERSEAS IN LONDON AND SOME
MEMBER OF THE CABINET IN GREAT BRITAIN OR GERMANY ASKED YOU TO
DEFINE AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY IN THOSE AREAS, COULD YOU DEFINE
IT? >> YOU KNOW, AMERICAN FOREIGN
POLICY IS COMPLETELY INCOHERENT TODAY.
I ACTUALLY WAS OVERSEAS THIS WEEKEND.
I WAS IN UKRAINE. I WAS IN ESTONIA, WHICH HOLDS
THE EU PRETTY RIGHT NOW. ALL THEY WANTED TO ASK ME ABOUT
IS WHETHER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAD THEIR BACK.
UKRAINE DOESN'T KNOW WHETHER TRUMP IS WITH RUSSIA OR THEM,
THE EU DOESN'T KNOW WHETHER TRUMP IS TRYING TO BREAK THEM UP
OR TRYING TO STRENGTHEN THEM. LIKE I SAID, IF YOU WANT ANY
DIPLOMATIC PATH ON NORTH KOREA, YOU HAVE TO PUT IN PLACE A
SERIES OF MULTILATERAL SANCTIONS WITH CHINA THAT WILL ULTIMATELY
BRING THEM TO THE TABLE. AND THIS PRESIDENT IS A
HISTORICALLY WEAK POSITION TO RALLY THE WORLD TO A CRISIS LIKE
THIS. SO, NO, THERE
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