How Mark Zuckerberg Can Be Transparent On Russia | Morning Joe

>>> SO YESTERDAY THE INTEL COMMITTEE, THE CHAIRMAN HAD A
PRETTY BIG PRESS CONFERENCE AND HAD REVEALING INFORMATION ABOUT
THE STATE OF THE RUSSIAN INVESTIGATION.
WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT IT? >> WE MIGHT BE THINKING ABOUT
THINGS HURRICANES, VEGAS, AFTER CONDUCTING MORE THAN 100
INTERVIEWS IN THEIR INVESTIGATION THEY SAY IT'S
STILL AN OPEN QUESTION WHETHER ANYONE IN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN
COOPERATED WITH RUSSIA TO INFLUENCE THE 2016 ELECTION.
SENATORS PROVIDED AN UPDATE ON THEIR PROBE INTO RUSSIAN
INTERFERENCE YESTERDAY AND ISSUED A WARNING ABOUT THE
UPCOMING ELECTIONS. >> THE RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE
SERVICE IS DETERMINED, CLEVER, AND I RECOMMEND THAT EVERY
CAMPAIGN AND EVERY ELECTION OFFICIAL TAKE THIS VERY
SERIOUSLY AS WE MOVE INTO THIS NOVEMBER'S ELECTION AND AS WE
MOVE INTO PREPARATION FOR THE 2018 ELECTION.
>> THE RUSSIAN ACTIVE MEASURES EFFORTS DID NOT END ON ELECTION
DAY AND WE NEED TO BE ON GUARD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS
PARTICULARLY TROUBLING TO BOTH OF US IS THE FACT THAT IT'S
BECOME EVIDENT THAT 21 STATES ELECTORAL SYSTEMS WERE NOT ALL
PENETRATED BUT THERE WAS AT LEAST, THERE WAS AT LEAST TRYING
TO OPEN THE DOOR. >> WELL, THEY HAVE REACHED A
CONCLUSION. THE SENATORS ALSO ADDRESSED
FINANCIAL AND PERSONAL TIES BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
CAMPAIGN AND ASSOCIATES. PARTS WERE CORROBORATED BUT THEN
THEY QUOTE, HIT A WALL. >> THOUGH WE HAVE BEEN
INCREDIBLY ENLIGHTENED AT OUR ABILITY TO REBUILD BACKWARDS UP
TO A CERTAIN DATE GETTING PAST THAT POINT HAS BEEN SOME WHAT
IMPOSSIBLE AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE
GOING TO FIND ANY INTELLIGENCE PRODUCTS THAT UNLOCK THAT KEY TO
PREJUNE OF 2016. >> NOW REUTERS REPORTS THAT
SPECIAL COUNCIL BOB MUELLER HAS TAKEN OVER INVESTIGATIONS OF THE
DOSSIER. MEANWHILE WE'RE LEARNING MORE
ABOUT RUSSIA'S USE OF FACEBOOK TO INTERFERE IN THE ELECTION.
A QUARTER OF THE 2,400 ADS LINKED TO RUSSIA TARGETED
SPECIFIC STATES INCLUDING WISCONSIN AND MICHIGAN THAT
ENDED UP OF COURSE FLIPPING FOR DONALD TRUMP AS WELL AS FLORIDA
AND OHIO. THE RUSSIANS ALSO TARGETED STATE
WITH HIGH PROFILE INCIDENTS OF VIOLENCE BETWEEN POLICE AND
AFRICAN AMERICANS STATES AND ADS WERE ALSO PLANTED IN RED STATES
LIKE TEXAS, ALABAMA, AND MISSISSIPPI.
LAST MONTH FACEBOOK REVEALED THAT GROUPS LINKED TO RUSSIA
SPENT $100,000 ON ELECTION ADS. BOTH BOOK AND TWITTER AGREED TO
TESTIFY NOW BEFORE THE SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE
INVESTIGATING MOSCOW'S ELECTION INTERFERENCE.
JUST LOOKING AT THE STATES THEY CHOSE, EITHER SOMEBODY ON THE
RUSSIAN SIDE OR SOMEBODY HERE IS GIVING THEM A GOOD TAKE ON HOW
TO USE THEIR MONEY. >> A GOOD TAKE ON HOW TO USE
THEIR MONEY AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTENT OF THE
ADVERTISEMENTS AT LEAST SOME OF THEM YOU HAVE SEEN OUT THERE
ALREADY, IT'S ALSO SOMEBODY THAT'S PRETTY AWARE OF HOW TO
TARGET, WHAT BELLS TO RING. IT CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE THEY HAD
THE HELP OF AMERICANS WHO MIGHT KNOW HOW TO CAMPAIGN AND HOW TO
WIN ELECTIONS. I'M WONDERING, MIKE, IF YOU
HEARD MARK WARNER, WHAT THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE INTEL
COMMITTEE SAID YESTERDAY. THAT IS THAT HE WANTED TO SEE
ALL THE FACEBOOK ADS THAT THE RUSSIANS RAN OR PEOPLE LINKED TO
RUSSIAN GROUPS RAN AND SAID WE HAVE A RIGHT TO SEE THAT AS
AMERICANS. TO SEE HOW THE RUSSIANS TRIED TO
INFLUENCE OUR ELECTIONS. NOW THIS IS SOMETHING WE DON'T
NEED TO GET FROM THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE DON'T NEED TO GET FROM MUELLER'S OFFICE.CE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FACEBOOK CAN PUT OUT THERE AND IF MARK
ZUCKERBERG IS REALLY ON THIS PR CAMPAIGN AND TAKING OUT FULL
PAGE ADVERTISEMENTS IN THE NEW YORK TIMES HE CAN PROBABLY HELP
IN HIS PR PUSH AND GET SOME GOOD WILL BY JUST BEING TRANSPARENT.
THROWING IT ALL ON THE TABLE AND SAY THESE ARE ALL THE ADS THAT
RUSSIA OR RUSSIAN BACKED GROUPS TOOK OUT ON BOOK DURING THE 2016
ELECTION TRYING TO SWAY AMERICAN DEMOCRACY.
>> WELL, JOE, I MEAN, MARK ZUCKERBERG AND FACEBOOK HAVE
BEEN DRAGGED KICKING AND SCREAMING TO THE EDGE OF
TRANSPARENCY FOR ABOUT TWO OR THREE MONTHS.
AT FIRST THEY WERE LIVING IN DENIAL AND PUBLIC DENIAL THAT WE
HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. WE DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS GOING ON
BUT NOW THERE'S A REALITY AND ANOTHER REALITY THAT OCCURRED
FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. ALL THE BOYS AND GIRLS OUT THERE
WATCHING. YOU SAW A REPUBLICAN AND MARK
WARNER A DEMOCRAT STANDING SHOULDER TO SHOULDER TALKING
ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT EFFECTS THE ENTIRE NATION, OUR COUNTRY AND I
DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT IT WAS ENCOURAGING TO FINALLY SEE SOME
SENSE OF BIPARTISANSHIP IN THIS POLARIZED TOWN WHERE YOU LIVE.
>> IT WAS AND THEY GENUINELY SEEM TO AGREE AND BE WORKING
TOGETHER DH IS A STARK CONTRAST TO THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE
INVESTIGATION WHICH SEEMS TO NOT EVEN BE IN THE GAME.
THE THING THAT STRUCK ME IS WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NEED
TO PROTECT THE ELECTORAL SYSTEMS THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW VULNERABLE
OUR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS ARE THAT ALL YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IS
TAKE TWO OR THREEEE STATES AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO PICK THEM OFF
AND CREATE CHAOS THERE AND YOU CAN REALLY ALTER, THE SAME WAY
YOU COULD ALTER A HOUSE RACE BY PICKING A COUPLE OF JURISDICTION
COUNTS. SO IT'S NOT JUST 2018, IT'S 2020
AND THEY ALSO HIGHLIGHTED THAT THERE'S SO MUCH WORK TO DO
BEFORE THESE ELECTIONS WHICH SEEM PRETTY MUCH AROUND THE
CORNER. >> BECAUSE OF THE ELECTORAL
COLLEGE, CAROL IS RIGHT, IT'S -- YOU CAN FIND OUT EASILY WHAT
COUNTIES TO TARGET, WHAT SUBJECTIONS OF THE COUNTIES TO
TARGET WITHOUT BREAKING A SWEAT YOU CAN GET ALL OF THE
INFORMATION ONLINE. THAT CAUSES A REAL PROBLEM.
BUT I WAS SURPRISED YESTERDAY THAT RICHARD DID NOT DENY THAT
THEY WERE STILL INVESTIGATING CLAIMS OF COLLUSION AND ALSO
THEY WERE NOT DISMISSING THE INFORMATION INSIDE THAT INFAMOUS
DOSSIER. >> I HAD TWO TAKE AWAYS.
ONE IS WITH THE RUSSIANS. CYBER NOW IS RIGHT THEREUPON
WITH MILITARY POWER AND ENERGY AS THEIR PRINCIPLE TOOLS OF
EXPANDING RUSSIAN INFLUENCE. ON COLLUSION, I HAVE A SLIGHTLY
DIFFERENT VIEW WHICH IS HOW HARD IT'S GOING TO BE TO PROVE.
YOU CAN'T RULE IT OUT BUT TO RULE IT IN IS GOING TO TAKE A
DEGREE OF SPECIFICITY THAT I THINK CAN BE DIFFICULT.
BUT I THINK WHAT WE SAW WITH CONGRESS IS THEY HAVE RUN UP
AGAINST THEIR LIMITS. THEY CAN'T RULE IT IT OUT AND T
CAN'T RULE IT IN. IT CAN BRING MORE TO BEAR TO THE
INVESTIGATION THAN THEY CAN. >> WE SHALL HE.
OBVIOUSLY HE HAS A LOT MORE POWER TO DO THAT THN THEY DO.
>> ARE REX TILLERSON'S DAYS NUMBERED?
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