Congressman Joe Crowley Warns Against GOP Tax Bill | Morning Joe

>> AND I'M STILL AROUND TOO.
JOINING US NOW, CHAIRMAN OF THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS AND MEMBER OF
THE HOUSE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE, JOE CROWLEY OF NEW
YORK. IT'S VERY FUNNY BUT BEHIND EVERY
"SNL" SATIRE, WHERE ARE THE NEW LEADERS?
>> THERE ARE MANY WITHIN OUR PARTY.
>> WHO? NAME THREE.
>> NAME THREE. HOW ABOUT JOE CROWLEY FOR ONE --
>> OKAY. I THINK SHERRY BUSTOS FROM
ILLINOIS IS FANTASTIC YOUNG LEADER.
I THINK HAKIM JEFFRIES IS OUTSTANDING AND YOU CAN CAN LOOK
AT CASTRO FROM TEXAS, A MYRIAD OF YOUNG FOLKS THAT ARE THERE.
JOE KENNEDY FROM MASSACHUSETTS, WHO I JUST LOVE THE GUY.
I THINK HE'S FANTASTIC. >> SETH?
>> HE'S A REAL DEAL AND SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS
THERE WAITING IN THE WINGS -- REALLY WE'RE OUT THERE DOING
THINGS AND SUPPORTING CANDIDATES AND TRAVELING WHAT WE DO TO
ELECT A DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY. >> CONGRESSMAN, THIS TAX FIGHT
WILL BE THE BIGGEST FIGHT ON LEGISLATIVE FRONT GOING FORWARD,
A LOT OF REPUBLICANS THINK THIS IS ALL OR NOTHING FOR THEM.
RIGHT NOW THE POLLING HAS THE GOP TAX PROPOSALS ARE UNDER
WATER, WAY MORE UNPOPULAR THAN THEY ARE POPULAR.
WILL DEMOCRATS ALMOST CAN'T SCREW THIS UP IT WOULD SEEM IF
YOU START OUT WITH THE NUMBERS THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT
HERE, LOOKING AT THEM ON THE SCREEN HERE, 31% FAVOR, 41%
OPPOSE. SHOULD THIS NOT BE A
RELATIVELY -- NOT EASY BUT RELATIVELY EASY TO BEAT THIS TAX
PROPOSAL? >> DEMOCRATS TO BEAT THIS
TAX PROPOSAL? >> I THINK THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS
IN THE HOUSE, THERE'S NO QUESTION.
THEY PASSED THE BUDGET RESOLUTION THAT INCLUDED THE
$1.5 TRILLION HOLE IN OUR DEBT TO GET THIS BILL PASSED.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY CAN HOLD ALL THEIR CALIFORNIA VOTES TO VOTE
AGAINST THE INTERESTS OF THEIR OWN CONSTITUENTS, WHICH THEY DID
ALREADY IN THE BUDGET RESOLUTION, WE HAVE NINE
REPUBLICANS IN NEW YORK STATE, SEVEN OF WHOM VOTED AGAINST THAT
RESOLUTION, FIVE HAVE COME OUT AGAINST THIS BILL.
IF ALL THOSE FOLKS COME OUT AGAINST THIS BILL, THIS BILL IS
DEAD. IT IS ACTUALLY AGAINST THE
INTERESTS OFSTS OF THEIR CONSTI. THEIR CONSTITUENTS THEY BELIEVE
DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THIS BUT MORE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S
ABOUT THAN MORE THAT ARE AGAINST IT.
>> CONGRESSMAN, DEMOCRATS ARE ON THE RISE IN THE SUBURBS.
IF YOU'RE A SENATOR IN A STATE PRESIDENT TRUMP WON OR A HOUSE
DEMOCRAT IN A DISTRICT PRESIDENT TRUMP WON, DO YOU FEEL ANY
PRESSURE TO MAYBE COME ALONG AND VOTE FOR THIS TAX PROPOSAL?
>> I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU'RE GETTING
RID OF THAT STATE AND LOCAL TAX DEDUCTION, THAT THAT REALLY HITS
STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA, HITS STATES LIKE NEW YORK, HITS
STATES LIKE ILLINOIS, HITS STATES LIKE PENNSYLVANIA, JUST
TO NAME A FEW. NEW JERSEY IS ANOTHER.
AND MUCH OF, I THINK, THE GROWTH OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WITHIN
THOSE STATES HAS BEEN IN THE SUBURBAN AREAS.
I THINK THAT'S A TOUGH VOTE TO EXPLAIN BACK HOME, ESPECIALLY
WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIKE PETER KING IN NEW YORK BEING VERY
OUTSPOKEN AGAINST IT. YOU HAVE OTHERS IN NEW JERSEY
WHO HAVE COME OUT AGAINST THE BILL.
YOU HAVE DARRELL ISSA IN CALIFORNIA WHO'S COME OUT.
THAT WALL IS BREAKING. IF THAT WALL IS DESTROYED, I
THINK THIS BILL GOES DOWN. IT REALLY COMES BACK TO DO YOU
COME OUT BETTER IN THIS TAX BILL OR WORSE?
I THINK FOR ABOUT 28% OF AMERICANS, THEY HAVE GOING TO
SEE AN INCREASE IN THEIR TAXES. THAT'S MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA.
AT THE EXPENSE OF THE MIDDLE CLASS TO HELP GIVE A MAJOR TAX
BREAK TO THE WEALTHIEST IN THIS COUNTRY AND SPECIAL INTEREST
CORPORATIONS. IT JUST DOESN'T JIVE WITH THE
AVERAGE AMERICAN THAT THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE ABOUT DOING
RIGHT NOW. >> YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THE OUTLINES OF THIS BILL AS THEY HAVE AND IN PRINT
NEWSPAPERS AND ONLINE AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND FROM PEOPLE LIKE
YOU APPEARING ON TV SHOWS, YOU LOOK AT WHAT IT'S DOING TO
MEDICAL DEDUCTIONS AND STUDENT LOANS.
THAT'S CLEARLY A NEGATIVE FOR MANY, MANY FAMILIES, BUT THERE'S
ONE ELEMENT I'M INTERESTED IN YOUR OPINION ON.
IT IS THE REFUSAL TO INCLUDE STATE AND LOCAL INCOME TAXES
GOING FORWARD AS A DEDUCTION. IF YOU OUTLINE THE STATES THAT
WOULD BE MOST IMPACTED, IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS STATES THAT VOTE
DEMOCRAT. >> IT'S --
>> AM I PARANOID? >> NO, YOU'RE NOT PARANOID.
IT'S THE ONE THING THAT'S BEEN CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT ANY BILL
THAT'S COME FORWARD. EVEN WHEN THE PRESIDENT'S
INITIAL BILL WAS PRESENTED IN THE TWO OR THREE PAGES THAT HE
PRESENTED, THERE WERE NO PAY-FORS SO IT WAS ALMOST A $3.5
TO $4 TRILLION BILL. THERE WAS ONE AND THAT WAS THE
ELIMINATION OF S.A.L.T. OR STATE AND LOCAL TAX DEDUCTIONS.
THERE ARE OTHER HORRIBLE THINGS IN HERE, INCLUDING GETTING RID
OF THE TAX CREDIT FOR HIRING VETERANS, FOR INSTANCE.
THAT'S GONE. THERE'S SO MANY LITTLE -- THE
TEACHER, YOU KNOW, BUYING EXTRA TOOLS FOR TEACHING IN CLASS,
THAT WILL NO LONGER BE EXPENSED UNDER THIS BILL.
THERE'S SO MANY LITTLE THINGS IN THIS BILL THAT MAKE IT IN MANY
RESPECTS FOR ME IMMORAL, BUT I THINK THE DOUBLE TAXATION OF
STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA, LIKE NEW YORK, LIKE NEW JERSEY, EVEN
PENNSYLVANIA I THINK IS A FOCUS ON BLUE RATHER THAN ANYTHING
ELSE. IT'S A VERY, VERY POLITICAL
DOCUMENT. >> YOU HAVE NOW SAID THAT YOU
THINK THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BETTER THAN 50% CHANCE OF RETAKING
CONTROL OF THE HOUSE IN 2018. YOU HAVE STEVE BANNON OUT THERE
RIGHT NOW LOUDLY SAYING -- TRYING TO RALLY REPUBLICANS BY
SAYING IF THE DEMOCRATS TAKE CONTROL OF THE HOUSE, THAT WILL
LEAD TO THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.
JUST TALK ABOUT HOW THE POLITICS OF IMPEACHMENT WILL BECOME A
CAMPAIGN ISSUE AND HOW DEMOCRATS SHOULD HANDLE THAT IF AS YOU
MOVE INTO NEXT NOVEMBER. >> IT'S ALREADY AN ISSUE.
WE'VE SEEN THE STEYER ADS. WE KNOW IN TERMS OF GENNING UP
SUPPORT IN OUR BASE. I THINK THERE'S REAL CONCERN
ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF OUR COUNTRY AND WHERE THE PRESIDENT
HAS TAKEN US, NOT JUST IN TERMS OF OVERSEAS BUT DOMESTICALLY AS
WELL. THE DESPERATION TO GET THIS TAX
BILL PASSED AT ALL COSTS IS BECAUSE OF THE DONOR BASE.
CHRIS COLLINS SAID IT FROM BUFFALO.
WE'VE HAD OTHERS SAY IT AS WELL. IF THEY DON'T PASS THIS BILL,
THEY'RE DONE. I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO THE
ISSUE OF IMPEACHMENT, I LIKE THE TACT THAT ROBERT MUELLER IS
DOING HIS JOB. HE'S TAKING IT WHERE IT LEADS.
IF IT LEADS TO SOMEWHERE AND IT'S AN ISSUE THAT CAN BE
PROSECUTED, THAT'S UP TO THEM TO DECIDE.
I THINK EVERYONE DESERVES THEIR
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