Joe: 'Any Self-Aware POTUS Would Be Very Concerning' | Morning Joe

>> I THINK HE'S A METALLICA GUY, A FOREIGN POLICY ADVISER TO
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S 2016'S CAMPAIGN HAS NOW CONFIRMED TO
NBC NEWS THE UNSEALED CONFESSION OF ANOTHER TRUMP ADVISER CLAIMED
THAT THE PRESIDENT AND NOW ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF SESSIONS,
WERE TOLD IN EARLY 2016, ABOUT THE ADVISER'S FOREIGN
CONNECTIONS AND HOPE TO ARRANGE A MEETING WITH RUSSIAN PRESIDENT
VLADIMIR PUTIN. COURT RECORDS SHOW FREQUENT
DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN SUSPECTED RUSSIAN AGENTS AND GEORGE
PAPADOPOULOS, A TRUMP NATIONAL SECURITY MEMBER WHO PLED GUILTY
TO MISLEADING PROBING FOREIGN MEDDLING IN THE ELECTION.
ONE SAYS MARCH 31st, 2016, PAPADOPOULOS ATTENDED A NATIONAL
SECURITY MEETING WITH THEN CANDIDATE TRUMP.
THEN SENATOR SESSIONS AND OTHER ADVISERS, WHEN PAPADOPOULOS
INTRODUCED HIMSELF TO THE GROUPS, HE STATED HE HAD
CONNECTIONS THAT COULD ARRANGE A MEETING BETWEEN HIM AND PUTIN.
NOW J.D. GORDON, A FORMER PENTAGON SPOKESMAN, WHO ALSO WAS
A TRUMP ADVISER IN THAT MEETING SITTING BETWEEN SESSIONS AND
PAPADOPOULOS TOLD THE "NEW YORK TIMES" HE REMEMBERS THE OFFER
AND WHAT WAS SAID. GORDON SAID PAPADOPOULOS QUOTE
WENT INTO THE PITCH RIGHT AWAY. HE SAID HE HAD A FRIEND IN
LONDON, THE AMBASSADOR THAT CAN SET UP A MEETING WITH PUTIN.
TRUMP LISTENED WITH INTEREST. GORDON SAYS SESSIONS TOLD THEM
NO ONE SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE SESSIONS THOUGHT IT WAS
A BAD IDEA THAT HE DID NOT WANT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CAMPAIGN.
WHITE HOUSE SPECIAL COUNSEL TY COBB RESPONDED THIS WAY.
SO THE ARGUE HERE, THE DEFENSE, JOE, THAT, YES, PAPADOPOULOS
MENTIONED A RUSSIA CONNECTION, BUT IT WAS SHUT DOWN
IMMEDIATELY, NOTHING ELSE WAS MADE OF IT.
THE PROBLEM IS THOSE CLIPS WE PLAYED AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW
SAYING DONALD TRUMP AND JEFF SESSIONS SAYING WE NEVER HEARD
OF ANY RUSSIA CONNECTION ON OUR CAMPAIGN.
>> RIGHT. EXACTLY.
AND TY COBB CAN SAY ALL HE WANTS TO ABOUT HOW INSIGNIFICANT IT
WAS. BUT IT IS THE PRESIDENT'S OWN
WORDS THAT DAMS HIS LAWYER'S CASE AGAINST HIM.
IT'S THE PRESIDENT'S OWN WORDS THAT WILL FOLLOW HIM AROUND.
IT'S THE PRESIDENT'S OWN ELEVATION, MICHAEL! MIDT OF THIS
UNKNOWN YOUNG STAFFER, AS TY COBB WOULD HAVE US SAY, WHERE HE
GOES INTO THE WASHINGTON POST. THIS IS ONE OF HIS FIRST, IF NOT
HIS FIRST SIGNIFICANT EDITORIAL PAGE MEETING AND HE WAS ASKED
ABOUT HIS FOREIGN POLICY TEAM AND THAT WAS THE SECOND NAME
THAT HE DISCUSSED AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT A BRIGHT MAN, YOUNG
MAN HE WAS, HE WAS AN EXPERT, ET SET REMARKS ET CETERA, ET
CETERA, SO I'M SORRY, IT'S JUST LIKE MANAFORT, WHO THEY CLAIM
WASN'T THAT CONNECTED WITH THE CAMPAIGN, THEY WERE SAYING IN
THE SUMMER OF 2016, HE WAS THE MAN WHO WOULD PUT THEM OVER THE
TOP AT THE CONVENTION, ALL OF THEM SAID IT.
IT'S THE SAME THING WITH CAMBRIDGE AN LIT KA.
IN THE SUMMER OF 2016, THEY WERE TELLING THE PRESS AND THEY WERE
TELLING ALL OF THEIR MONEY PEOPLE, NO, NO, CAMBRIDGE AN LIT
KA, THEY'RE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO TELL US WHERE ALL THE
VOTES ARE IN STATES LIKE MICHIGAN, YOU KNOW, NORTH KOREA,
AND FLORIDA. NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IT TO A
STAFFTARY DONALD TRUMP SAID WAS ONE OF HIS MOST IMPORTANT.
. >> THEY TRY AND MORE THEY AS,
LOOK, WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF FOREIGN POLICY TEAM TO
MAKE THE ARGUE TO REPUBLICANS THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE SERIOUS
ABOUT THIS ISSUE. A LOT OF FOLKS DIDN'T WANT TO BE
ASSOCIATED WITH US. WE THREW THIS GROUP TOKE VERY
QUICKLY. WE BROUGHT THEM IN FRONT OF THE
PRESIDENT, IT WAS BASICALLY A PHOTO OP.
I DON'T KNOW HOW -- THERE WASN'T THAT MANY PHOTOS TO IT.
BUT IT WAS A WAY OF SHOWING IT. NO ONE REALLY TOOK THAT IT
SERIOUSLY, SO TO HOLD DONALD TRUMP ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT HE
SAID MANY MONTHS LATER, WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS WOULD ARGUE,
THIS WAS ONE PASSING THING IN A MEETING.
HOW COULD HE HAVE REMEMBERED IT? >> YEAH, BUT MAYBE ONE OF THE
WAYS THEY COULD REMEMBER IT IS, CATTY KAY, THEY TOOK A PICTURE
OF IT AND SENT IT AROUND ON CAMPAIGNTATIONARY AND IT WAS
PROBABLY ONE OF THE FEW FOREIGN POLICY MEETINGS HE HAD AT THAT
POINT. YOU HAVE JEFF SESSIONS, WHO WAS
IN THE MEETING AND HE'S TWO PEOPLE AWAY FROM A MAN WHO HAD
CONTACTS WITH THE RUSSIANS AND WAS TRYING TO SET UP A MEETING.
DID JEFF SESSIONS JUST GET CAUGHT LYING TO CONGRESS AGAIN?
>> JEFF SESSION'S HOLE IN ALL OF THIS ARE INTERESTING.
HE SAYS HE DOESN'T REMEMBER, HE ALSO SAYS VERY CLEARLY, HE IS
THE ONE BY THIS ACCOUNT IN THIS MEETING HE POURS COLD WATER ON
THIS IDEA AND SAYS ACTUALLY THIS COMPANY SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO
DO WITH THE RUSSIANS. HE DOESN'T LIKE THIS AS A
STRATEGY OR GOING ON. SO THE FACT THAT HE DID THAT,
YOU WOULD THINK HE WOULD BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT, BECAUSE IT WAS
SOMETHING HE OBJECTED TO. I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE THE
PRESIDENT DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT PARTICULAR MEETING.
THEN THE PRESIDENT HAS TO LEARN TO BE A LOT MORE CAREFUL ABOUT
HIS SUBSEQUENT LANGUAGE. RIGHT?
HE CAN'T SAY, NO, THOSE MEETINGS CATEGORICALLY DID NOT HAPPEN,
NO, THERE WERE TO CONTACTS BETWEEN MY CAMPAIGN.
HE COULD HAVE SAID, HONESTLY, I DON'T REMEMBER THERE WERE ANY.
>> THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MORE ACCURATE ACCOUNTING OF IT.
>> THIS REPORT ABOUT PAPADOPOULOS AND CARTER PAGE
TOLD NBC NEWS HE INFORMED JEFF SESSIONS HE WAS HEADED FOR
RUSSIA IN JUNE OF 2016. IN AN E-MAIL PAGE SAYS, QUOTE, I
MENTIONED IN PASSING THAT I HAPPENED TO BE PLANNING TO GIVE
A SPEECH AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MOSCOW, COMPLETELY UNREALED TO
MY LIMITED VOLUNTEER ROLE ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN.
SEXES WAS TOLD ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS
ATTEMPTING TO CONTACT RUSSIAN OFFICIALS, AFTER HIS OWN
MEETINGS WITH RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR KISLYAK IN JULY AND SEPTEMBER,
INITIALLY HE WAS UNABLE TO RECALL AND ALL SEEMINGLY IN ON
THE TRAFT WITH HIS SWORN TESTIMONY IN JANUARY, JUNE AND
OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR. >> IF THERE IS ANY EVIDENCE THAT
ANYONE AFFILIATED WITH THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN COMMUNICATED WITH THE
RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT IN THE COURSE OF THIS CAMPAIGN, WHAT WILL YOU
DO? >> SENATOR FRANKEN, I'M NOT
AWARE OF ANY OF THOSE ACTIVITIES.
I HAVE BEEN CALLED A SURROGATE AT A TIME OR TWO IN THAT COMPANY
AND I DID NOT HAVE COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE
RUSSIANS. I HAVE NEVER MET WITH OR HAD ANY
CONVERSATION WITH ANY RUSSIANS OR ANY FOREIGN OFFICIALS
CONCERNING ANY TYPE OF INTERFERENCE WITH ANY CAMPAIGN
OR ELECTION IN THE UNITED STATES.
FURTHER, I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ANY SUCH CONVERSATIONS BY ANYONE
CONNECTED TO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN. >> YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT
SURROGATES FROM THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH
THE RUSSIANS, IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
>> I DID NOT. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYONE ELSE
THAT DID. >> SO, JOHN HEILEMANN,
OBVIOUSLY, THIS FLIES IN THE FACE OF THE REPORTING WE HAVE
THIS MORNING THAT HE WAS IN A MEETING, SITTING A FEW CHAIRS
AWAY FROM GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS, WHO INTRODUCED A MEETING WITH
PUTIN. SEXES SHUT DOWN THAT IDEA.
BUT HE WAS AWARE OF RUSSIAN CONTACTS WITHIN THE COMPANY.
>> THERE ARE TWO RELATED PROBLEMS, ONE IS A LARGE
PROBLEM. THE OTHER IS A LARGER PROBLEM T.
LARGE PROBLEM IS SEGS HAS NOW TO JOE'S QUESTION EARLIER, HAS NOW
REPEATEDLY LIED UNDER OATH TO CONGRESS.
HE'S HAD TO CLEAN UP HIS LIES ON TWO OCCASIONS, NOW HIS FORMER
COLLEAGUES IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE WILL HAVE HIM COME BACK.
THEY WERE ALREADY SENDING HIM LETTERS SAYING YOU HAVE TO COME
BACK UP HERE, YOU CLEARLY HAVE BEEN MISLEADING THE CONGRESS
UNDER OATH. THAT'S ONE PROBLEM THE SECOND
PROBLEM, THE LARGER PROBLEM, THE BIGGEST CONTEXT HERE IS THAT
EVERYBODY RELATED TO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WHEN THEY'RE ASKED
ABOUT RUSSIA LIES ABOUT IT AND THEY'RE FOUND OUT LATER, THEIR
IMMEDIATE INSTINCT THROUGHOUT HAS BEEN TO DISASSEMBLE IN
PUBLIC STATEMENTS UNDER OATH TO THE PRESS FROM THE TIME DONALD
TRUMP TOOK OFFICE, EVERY QUESTION, EVERY TIME THIS COMES
UP, NO ONE IS STRAIGHT FORWARD ABOUT THEIR ROLE, WHETHER THEIR
ROLE IS INNOCENT OR WHETHER THEIR ROLE MIGHT HAVE SOME
NEFARIOUS OVERTONES TO IT. WHEN EVERYBODY LIES ABOUT
SOMETHING, CONSISTENTLY OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THIS IS THE HEART OF
THE PROBLEM AGAIN POLITICALLY AND LEGALLY, IT CALLS A HUGE
AMOUNT OF TENSION AND DRAWS SUSPICION TO THE FACT THAT NO
ONE TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
>> EVEN IF IT WAS. >> YES.
>> DONNY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR
QUITE SOME TIME. I THINK WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION
SIX MONTHS AGO ASKING THE QUESTION, WHY IS IT EVERY TIME
SOMEBODY IN THE TRUMP TEAM TALKS ABOUT RUSSIA THEY LIE?
HERE HAVE YOU DONALD TRUMP SAYING ABOUT, I WROTE THE DATE
DOWN FEBRUARY 16th, 2017, THAT NOBODY HAD ANY CONTACT WITH
ANYBODY IN RUSSIA OTHER THAN FLYNN, WHO ONLY GOT CAUGHT AFTER
HE WAS LYING BECAUSE HIS COMBHUN INDICATIONS WERE INTERCEPTED.
THEY LIED ABOUT THAT BEFORE HANDZ, HAVE YOU ALL THESE
MEETINGS, DONALD TRUMP FINDING OUT THAT PAPADOPOULOS HAS
ACTUALLY WAS TRYING TO SET UP A MEETING, BECAUSE HE HAD CONTACT
WITH THE RUSSIANS. THEN YOU HAVE, OF COURSE, DON
JR. MEETING JUNE 9th, DONALD TRUMP CERTAINLY KNEW ABOUT WHERE
EVERYBODY, MANAFORT, EVERYBODY WAS PILED IN THERE TO GET DIRT
ON HILLARY CLINTON. AND HAVE YOU AGAIN, THIS ENTHE
PRESIDENT IS LYING WHEN ONCE THEY, EVERYBODY FINDS OUT ABOUT
THAT, SHE A GUY THAT ORCHESTRATES IT ON AIR FORCE ONE
TO LIE ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING, WITH I HE LIED AND SAID
IT WAS ABOUT ADOPTION, OF COURSE, IT WAS ABOUT GETTING
INTEL FROM OUR ENEMIES, THE RUSSIANS.
SO DONNY, A PROSECUTOR IS NOT GOING TO GET SOMEBODY THROWN IN
JAIL BECAUSE THEY'RE LYING TO THE PRESS, BUT IT SHOWS INTENT
AND PROSECUTORS DO LOOK AT PUBLIC STATEMENTS THAT ARE LIES,
THAT ARE MEANT TO DECEIVE THE PRESS AND MOVE PROSECUTORS A
TOUGH TRAIL. THIS LOOKS BAD.
AND THERE'S A TIME LOON I WROTE IN THE WASHINGTON POST THIS
MORNING, THERE IS A TIME LINE THAT WHEN YOU STACK UP ALL OF
THESE DATES, OF JUST WHAT WE KNOW.
IT'S LOOKING, LET'S JUST SAY, ANY SELF-AWARE PRESIDENT WOULD
BE VERY CONCERNED RIGHT NOW ABOUT FEDERAL CHARGES.
>> WELL, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT THE TIME
LINE LAST YEAR, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE LAST 25 YEARS, YOU KNOW,
DONALD TRUMP WENT BANKRUPT IN THE EARLY '90s.
WE KNOW THE U.S. BANKS STOPPED LENDING HIM MONEY.
WE KNOW HESS KIDS KEPT SAYING THE MONEY IS POURING IN FROM
RUSSIA. THOSE ARE EXACT QUOTES FROM
DONALD TRUMP JR. WE NO ETHE RUSSIANS THROUGH FACEBOOK AND
126 MILLION IN THE U.S. WERE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO GET
THIS PRESIDENT-ELECTED. WE KNOW THIS PRESIDENT NEVER
STILL ALMOST A YEAR IN OFFICER SAID ONE NEGATIVE WORD AGAINST
OUR GEOPOLITICAL ENEMY, A DICTATOR FOR LACK OF A BETTER
WORD, VLADIMIR PUTIN, BASICALLY, HE SAID BAD WORDS ABOUT
EVERYBODY ELSE ON THIS WALKING PLANET.
SO YOU COME BACK TO THE SIMPLE FACT NOW AS ALL THESE LITTLE
NUGGETS ARE COMING, THERE WILL BE MANY MORE COMING TO FRUITION
THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN OWNED BE I THE RUSSIANS BECAUSE OF
MONEY, FOLLOW THE MONEY, IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
THESE ARE NOW LITTLE PIECES FALLING IN PLACE.
THERE IS A BIG, BIG STORY THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE COMING MONTHS
ABOUT RUSSIA. MONEY LAUNDER.
IT GOES BACK TO TRUMP TOWER. THERE ARE SO MANY SPEC
INSTANCES, THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
>> THAT'S WHAT BOB MUELLER IS LOOKING INTO.
KASIE HUNT, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT J.D. GORDON, IN THE
MEETING BY MIKE SCHMYTH MIDT TALK ABOUT PAPADOPOULOS, SAYING
HE HAD A FRIEND IN LONDON, A RUSSIAN PAED WHO COULD SET UP A
MEETING WITH PUTP. I UNDERSTAND YOU ACTUALLY SPOKE
TO MR. GORDON THIS MORNING? >> YEAH, I WORKED WITH J.D.
GONE, HE HAS BEEN IN PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS FOR
SEVERAL CYCLES AND SO I REACHED OUT TO HIM TO TRY AND CONFIRM
HIS ACCOUNT IN THE "NEW YORK TIMES," HE DID, HE WAS EMPHATIC
IS SAYING LOOK WHEN THIS CAME UP, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JEFF
SESSIONS IMMEDIATELY DISMISSED AND SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT
SOMETHING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT. I DO THINK TO ECHO WHAT SEVERAL
AROUND THE TABLE HAVE POINTED OUT, THERE SEEM TO BE VERY
SUBTLE AND DIFFERING ACCOUNTS OF EXACTLY WHAT TYPE OF ADVISERS,
EITHER ONE OF THESE WERE. WE WERE EXPANDING THIS
CONVERSATION AROUND CARTER PAGE, SUDDENLY PEOPLE THAT AT THE TIME
OF THE EVENTS SEEM TO PLAY ONE ROLE BUT NOW IN RETROSPECT
PEOPLE ARE ARGUING THAT THEY PLAYED DIFFERENT ROLES AND THE
OVERALL THEME HERE SEEMS TO BE THAT THE SPECIAL COUNSEL MR.
MUELLER HAS A REMARKABLE CAPACITY TO JOG PEOPLE'S
MEMORIES SOME WE'LL SEE IF THAT TREND HOLDS.
>> SEE, IT'S INTERESTING, YOU LOOK AT TY COBB, AGAIN HE TRIES
TO DISCREDIT PAPADOPOULOS, A YOUNG UNPAID VOLUNTEER AND
SUPPOSED ENERGY EXPERT. THE WAY WE LEARNED HE WAS AN
ENERGY EXPERT FROM DONALD TRUMP. THAT WAS A QUOTE HE USED.
PEOPLE SAID, WHO? SHE AN ENERGY EXPERT?
WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT. >> HE SAID SHE A FINE YOUNG MAN.
SO THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY PLAYING THAT GAME.
I WOULD ADD ONE THING, I THINK TO WHAT JOHN AND CASEY MAY HAVE
BEEN ALLUDING TO. YOU MAY HAVE, YOU CERTAINLY MAY
HAVE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH. YOU MAY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE
MONEY AND WHERE THE MONEY WENT. BUT THE OTHER THING YOU HAVE
HERE IS BASIC INCOMPETENCE IN THE SENSE THAT THEY ARE
VIOLATING A BASIC RAWL OF ANY INVESTIGATION, WITH I IS THE
FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS FIND OUT EVERYTHING YOURSELF AND
GET IT OUT THERE AT ONCE SO YOU ARE FOUGHT HAVING THIS DRIP,
DRIP, DRIP, WHERE SOME PROSECUTOR IS FINDING A GUY THAT
SAYS THIS HAPPENED AFTER SOMEBODY ELSE SAID IT DIDN'T
HAPPEN. THEY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE CONTROL
OF THE FACTS OR THE STORY OR KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
IT WOULD BE THE FIRST RULE OF ANY INVESTIGATION, IF ARE YOU
THE TARGET, WHICH IS TO KNOW EVERYTHING, GET IT OUT THERE IN
A CLEAN WAY SO THAT YOU HAVE SOME CREDIBILITY WITH THE
PUBLIC. THEY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY
INTEREST IN DOING THAT. >> OR THEY KNOW THE FACTS AND
WANT TO CLOUDS THE FACTS. >> FEW LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE THAT
TRUMP AND SEXES USED, SESSIONS SAID I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE WERE
CONTACTS HIM IELT NOT AWARE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A
DELIBERATE F. HE HAD SPOKEN TO HIS LAWYER BEFOREHAND AND GOT
DELIBERATE LEGAL LANGUAGE. TRUMP SAYING SOMETHING MUCH MORE
BLUNT. >> SESSIONS IS A LAWYER, TRUMP
ISN'T. >> THAT MAY BE THE DIFFERENCE.
WHERE DID THE GO NOW? WHAT HAVE, IN TERMS OF THE PAP
DONE LUS STUFF, IN TERMS OF THE SESSIONS STUFF, THAT MEETING,
WHAT WAS MUELLER LOOKING AROUND? WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP, DO YOU
THINK? >> WELL, FOR BETTER OR WORSE,
IT'S NOT AGAINST THE LAW TO LIE TO THE PRESS, BUT WHAT MUELLER
IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS WHY ON THE FLIGHT PACK FROM EUROPE
OVER THE SUMMER, TRUMP WAS SO INVOLVED IN TRYING TO PROVIDE A
MISLEADING INITIAL STATEMENT TO THE "NEW YORK TIMES" ABOUT THE
TRUMP TOWER MEETING? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW,
MUELLER IS REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND IS FOCUSED ON,
IT'S INTERESTING, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE A LIE UNDER OATH OR A
LIE TO CONGRESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S INTERESTING ABILITY WHAT THE
PRESIDENT'S STATEMENTS WERE IN FEBRUARY WAS THAT IT CAME AT A
VERY CRUCIAL TIME IN THE ADMINISTRATION, FLYNN HAD JUST
RESIGNED THREE DAYS EARLIER. WE NOW KNOW THE DAY AFTER THAT,
FEBRUARY 14th, YOU KNOW, TRUMP GOES TO COMEY, ASKS HIM TO MOVE
PAST THE FLYNN INVESTIGATION SO THEN THAT BRINGS US UP TO THE
16ING OF FEB FEBRUARY, WHERE HE MAKES THOSE COMMENTS AT THE
PRESS CONFERENCE AND TRIES AS HARD AS HE CAN TO TAMP DOWN THE
RUSSIA STORY. SO IT'S A SERIES OF EVENTS THAT
MUELLER IS LOOKING AT, THAT HE'S TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AS MUCH AS
WE ARE. >> AND YOU KNOW, WILLIE, AGAIN,
YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE IS SAYING THIS MORNING
WITH THE LAWYERS ARE SAYING TO TRY TO GET THIS BEHIND HIM, AND
YOU CAN SEE IT'S RED AND IT IS SO OBVIOUS THAT NOBODY CAN BE
FOOLED BY THE FACT THAT PAPADOPOULOS WENT FROM BEING HIS
KEY FOREIGN POLICY ADVISER, ONE OF HIS THREE IN THE SUMMER OF
2016, ACCORDING TO DONALD TRUMP, TO THE WASHINGTON POST EDITORIAL
BOARD, TO BEING A NOBODY NOW THAT HE WAS UNDER, PUT UNDER
ARREST. MAN A FOR THE -- MANAFORT WAS
THE ONE MAN THAT CAN GET THEM OVER THE TOP.
THEY ALL SAID THAT, CORY LEWANDOWSKI WASN'T UP TO THE
TASK. HE WASN'T SMART ENOUGH TO DO IT.
THEY HAD TO BRING IF PAUL MANAFORT.
HE WAS THIS GENIUS AT GETTING DELEGATES.
SUDDENLY MANAFORT GETS IF TROUBLE, HE'S A NOBODY.
AS I SAID BEFORE, THEY WILL DO THE SAME THING WITH CAMBRIDGE,
AN LIT KA, SAYING ALL OF THEIR
DONORS AND MEDIA, WE WILL HAVE THE BEST TURNOUT BECAUSE WE'RE
WORKING WITH CAMBRIDGE AN LIT KA AND THEY'RE THE BEST OF THE
BEST. HEY, DON'T TELL ANYBODY.
BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. THEY CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
AND THEY CAN'T MINIMIZE PAPADOPOULOS, THEY CAN'T
MINIMIZE NAN P MANAFORT AND THEY CAN'T MINIMIZE CAMBRIDGE, EVEN
THOUGH THEY WILL TRY EVERY DAY, THEY OBVIOUSLY, GOT CONNECTED.
SO, ANYWAY, THAT'S A FABULOUS DISCUSSION HIM WE STILL HAVE, OF
COURSE, COMING UP, DONNA BRAZILE, TOO AND THOSE BOMBSHELL
REVELATIONS ABOUT THE DNC. >> ONE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT,
THEY HAVE REOPENED QUESTIONS NOW ABOUT WHAT JEFF SESSIONS SAID
BEFORE THE SENATE. HAVE YOU DEMOCRATIC SENATORS
COMING OUT NOW, SENATOR LEAHY, BLUMEN THAT, WE WOULD BRING JEFF
SESSIONS BACK IN FRONT OF THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, ASK
HIM WHY HE CAN'T TELL THE TRUTH. WHY HE CAN'T PROVIDE TRUTHFUL
TESTIMONY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GREAT REPORTING. STILL AHEAD, PRESIDENT TRUMP
LAMENTS UNABLE TO INVOLVE HIMSELF WITH THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT AND THE FBI. IN HIS OWN WORDS, I'M NOT
SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THE THINGS I AM SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, I AM
FRUSTRATESED BY IT. >>> THE HOUSE WAYS AND MEANS
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