Joe Weighs In On Elections: US Politics Are A 'Disaster' | Morning Joe

. >> WELCOME BACK TO "MORNING
JOE." IT WILL BE A COLD DAY, WIND
CHILL IN THE TEENS THEY SAY, IN THE TEENS.
SO JOE WAS WRITING THIS MORNING IN THE "WASHINGTON POST" IT
PROVES IT. >>> AMERICAN POLITICS ARE A
DISASTER.
>>> THIS HAS BEEN A PIPE DREAM FOR TOO LONG, IT'S BEEN A PIPE
PARTY, IT'S NEVER WORKED WITH A CANDIDATE THAT HAS A CHANCE TO
WIN. IS IT DIFFERENT?
IS IT GETTING DIFFERENT? >> I SPENT THE LAST WEEKEND OUT
WITH THE TRUMP VOTERS, THE DEMOCRATS WHO HAD VOTED FOR
TRUMP IN PENNSYLVANIA AND OHIO AND THEY'RE STILL ENTHUSIASTIC
ABOUT HIM BUT AS MUCH AS THEY LOVE HIM, YOU LOOK AT THE 67% OF
THE COUNTRY THAT'S APPALLED BY HIM AND REPELLED BY HIM.
I DO THINK, I'VE NEVER BEEN A FAN, A PROPONENT, A BELIEVER
THAT A THIRD PARTY CAN DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN SERVE AS SA
SPOILER FOR THE PARTY WITH WHICH HE OR SHE IS MOST ALIGNED.
I THINK WE'RE IN THIS MOMENT. MIKE AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT
THE BOOK "THE UNWINDER" BY GEORGE PACKER, WE ARE
UNRAVELLED, WE ARE UNWOUND, WE NEED TO BE UPDATED AND COULD
UNWOUND. I THINK AS WE SORT OF ALL ARE ON
OUR KNEES, THERE IS AN OPENNESS TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BUILT AROUND COMPETENT NOT IDEOLOGY.
I THINK SOMETHING THAT REPELS PEOPLE IS THIS TRIBALISM, THE
DEFENDING OF THE INDEFENSIBLE BECAUSE THEY'RE IN YOUR TRIBE.
I THINK A THIRD PARTY MOVEMENT WOULD HAVE TO BE BASED AROUND
THAT WHICH IS COMPETENT, NOT IDEOLOGICAL AND THAT WHICH IS
GRASS ROOTS. >> WE SAW THAT.
>> EVERY OTHER AREA OF OUR LIFE, WE HAVE MORE CHOICES THAN EVER
BEFORE, WE GREW UP WITH SIX TVs, THERE USED TO BE TWO PEANUT
BUTTERS, NOW THERE ARE 100. >> THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING,
STANDING THERE FOR LIKE AN HOUR. >> THIS IS THE ONLY AREA IN
MODERN WESTERN CIVILIZATION THAT HAS NOT EVA FLD TO KIND OF MORE
CHOICES. WE STILL LIVE IN THIS A OR B
WORLD AND WE ARE NOT IN AN A OR B WORLD.
SO I DON'T HAVE A PRESCRIPTION, BUT I DO NOT, IT'S NOT MIRROR
WHO WE ARE ANYMORE. WHICH IS TAKE ONE, TAKE THE
OTHER OR GO HOME. >> BUT IN NEW YORK, SYRACUSE THE
FIFTH LARGEST CITY, ELECTED MAYOR ON TUESDAY THAT DID NOT
COME FROM A MAJOR PARTY, WHO RAN AS AN INDEPENDENT WITH 54% OF
THE VOTE. AS A MATTER OF FACT, HE CAME
FROM A PROMINENT REPUBLICAN FAMILY, BUT THE FACT THAT HE WAS
ABLE TO GET 54% OF THE VOTE IN A DEMOCRATIC CITY AND NOW GOES IN
AS AN INDEPENDENT, IT DOES SHOW ON THE GRASS ROOTS LEVEL WITH
THE RIGHT CANDIDATE, PEOPLE ARE OPEN TO IT.
SO WE ARE STARTING TO SEE A LITTLE BREAK HERE AND THERE.
>> JOHN, IF YOU LOOK AT LAST YEAR, DONALD TRUMP IS NOT A
REPUBLICAN. HE WAS A VETTING CANDIDATE WHO
RAN, BERNIE SANDERS ISN'T A DEMOCRAT.
IN FACT, HE'S NOT A DEMOCRAT, HE'S AN INDEPENDENT, THAT SPIRIT
IS THERE. THE QUESTION IS CAN YOU RUN
WITHOUT THE PARTY APPARATUS AND WIN ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL?
>> THE ANSWER IS NO, TO DONNY OS POINT, WE DON'T HAVE A FREE
MARKET IN POLITICS, I WAS A BIG ADVOCATE SOMEHOW WE CAN GET AN
INDEPENDENT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE THE REALITY IS THE
PARTIES HAVE SUCH A VICE-LIKE GRIP OVER BASIC FUNDAMENTAL
INFRASTRUCTURE, LIKE BALLOT ACCESS, THE PEOPLE THAT GO
AROUND START THIS MOVEMENT. YOU GO STATE BY STATE.
THE PARTIES ARE PROFOUNDLY CORRUPT.
THEY HAVE SO MUCH CONTROL OVER YOU KEEPING THOSE THIRD PARTY
OUT THAT IT JUST, IT'S ALMOST INSUPPERABLE BARRIER TO THAT
HAPPENING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S CLEAR THERE IS A HUGE APPETITE
FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THE THING ABOUT TRUMP, THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY ARE IN A PERIOD OF TERMINAL BREAKDOWN.
YOU ARE MORE LIKELY TO SEE THE PARTIES DISSOLVE AND REBUILD
THEMSELVES RATHER THAN LIKE A
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