Leader Bans 'Gender-Based Insults'

THE FRENCH PRESIDENT WANTS TO OUTLAW GENDER-BASED INSULTS.
DURING A SPEECH AT THE INTERNATIONAL DAY FOR THE
ELIMINATION OF VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN HE SAID VERBAL
ATTACKS, HE WANTS HIM TO COME WITH A FINE.
SO THAT MEANS PEPE LE PEW IS GOING TO JAIL.
HE ANNOUNCED PLANS TO MAKE THE NEW RULES WITHIN WEEKS.
WHAT YOU THINK THAT WITHIN FRANCE IT BEING A FINEABLE
OFFENSE?
>> FINEABLE, BUT NO JAIL?
>>NO JAIL, JUST A FINE.
>> OKAY, JILL WOULD BE HIDEOUS.
>> THERE IS MORE.
>> I ALWAYS HEAR THE THING THAT FRANCE IS SUPER RACIST.
>> THE RACISM THAT EXISTS IN EUROPE IS LARGELY BECAUSE A LOT
OF THE SUPERFICIAL RACISM THAT WE HAVE ELIMINATED LARGELY,
THERE IS STILL SYSTEMIC RACISM ñ
YOU CAN JUST GO ON TV AND SAY THE N-WORD ANYMORE.
YOU WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY FIRED.
IN EUROPE THERE IS A LOT MORE OF THAT IS YOUR RACISM, IT IS
MUCH MORE ACCEPTABLE STILL.
I THINK LARGELY BECAUSE THEIR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES ARE
MUCH NEWER.
THEY ARE NOT FIGHTING THESE BATTLES FOR HUNDREDS OF
YEARS LIKE WE HAVE HERE.
THERE IS AN INFLUX OF NONWHITE PEOPLE INTO WESTERN EUROPE
AFTER WORLD WAR II.
BUT IT IS SUPER RACIST.
THE BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE WITHIN FRENCH SOCIETY, BUT THIS
IS ALSO IN SPAIN AND GERMANY, THEY HAVE RACE RIOTS ALL
THE TIME BECAUSE THEY ARE COMPLETELY CUT OUT.
THE IDEA, WE KNOW THAT BARACK OBAMA BEING ELECTED DIDN'T
END RACISM IN AMERICA.
BUT THAT IS SO UNTHINKABLE IN EUROPE FOR THERE TO BE A
NONWHITE HEAD OF STATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IS JUST BEYOND ANYTHING IMAGINABLE.
YES, IT IS SUPER RACIST.
>> OBVIOUSLY THE DANGER THERE IS OBVIOUS.
>> THERE ARE THESE WEIRD LAWS IN AMERICA ABOUT STALKING AND
VERBALLY HARASSING WOMEN ON THE STREET AND IT VARIES STATE
TO STATE.
SOME OF THEM ARE SO STRANGELY WORDED.
IT JUST
DEPENDS ON WHAT IS THE WAY PEOPLE TYPICALLY GO ABOUT
MAKING WOMEN FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE IN ANY STATE.
>>THE ISSUE IS ALSO THAT IN ANY WESTERN COUNTRY, HAVE
OUTLAWED NAZI SPEECH.
THEY HAVE OUTLAWED THE DENIAL OF THE HOLOCAUST IS ILLEGAL.
YOU CAN JUST GO OUT AND WHERE NAZI PARAPHERNALIA ON THE
STREET.
BUT THAT HAS NOT PREVENTED THE RESURGENCE OF A FAR RIGHT
MOVEMENT IN MANY WESTERN EUROPEAN COUNTRIES.
I THINK THE INTENT OF THESE LAWS IS GENUINE.
BUT THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE ñ ACHIEVE THE INTENDED GOALS.
>>IS A WASTE OF TIME?
>> LIKE YOU SAID IF THIS WAS A CRIMINAL SITUATION ñ
>> IS IN IT CRIMINAL TO WAIVE THE NAZI FLAG?
>> IT IS NOT A USEFUL ñ INEVITABLY ñ
>>COULDN'T YOU GET JAIL TIME IN FRANCE?
>>YOU COULD.
I JUST FIND IT WEIRD THAT THEY WOULD TRY TO IMPLEMENT THESE
LAWS WITHOUT ANY SORT OF ANALYSIS OF WHETHER THEY ARE
ACHIEVING THE GOALS THEY WANT TO ACHIEVE.
>>BUT I DO THINK THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR
PUTTING OUT A LAW THAT IS LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE STAND FOR.
WE DIDN'T GET TO A STORY IN THE FIRST HOUR THAT WAS ABOUT THE
GAP BETWEEN THE RIGHTS THAT UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS HAVE AND
THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THOSE RIGHTS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
HAVING THEM BECAUSE IT IS THIS WEIRD GAME OF CHICKEN.
>> YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW A STATE COULD ENFORCE THOSE LAWS.
POLICING HATE SPEECH STRIKES ME AS ñ WHAT WILL INEVITABLY HAPPEN
IS THAT THINGS THAT WE DON'T CONSIDER HATE SPEECH WILL
BE CLASSIFIED AS HATE SPEECH, ESPECIALLY THINGS THAT CHALLENGE
THE ESTABLISHMENT, THE POWER STRUCTURE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> YOU CAN'T CRIMINALIZE ACTION, NOT SPEECH.
I DON'T LIKE THE SLIPPERY SLOPE ARGUMENT.
IS AN EXCUSE NOT TO TACKLE A PROBLEM.
IT IS HERE.
THIS LAW WERE A LOOSELY WRITTEN LAW ABOUT HARASSMENT ON THE
STREET THEN MAYBE YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH IT.
>>THAT IS A DIFFERENT THING RIGHT.
A DIRECT THREAT TO SOMEONE ñ I DON'T KNOW.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE OTHER ROLES?
>> I CAN'T SEE THAT BEING A BIG SOCIETAL CHANGE.
>>IT SEEMS CLEAR THAT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT IS
THE INABILITY FOR WOMEN TO COME FORWARD AND REPORT IT TO SOME
INDEPENDENT INSTITUTION OUTSIDE OF THEIR EMPLOYER.
THEY ARE NOT BUILT TO HELP HER, THEY ARE BUILT TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES.
>>IF ANYONE DOUBTED THAT WE HAVE SEEN THE UNWILLINGNESS TO REPORT
VIOLENT SEXUAL ASSAULT ñ IMAGINE IF THEY FELT LIKE NO GOOD COMES
OF THIS.
IN GENERAL THOSE LAWS MAKE SENSE.
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Leader Bans 'Gender-Based Insults'

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