Rudy Giuliani Keeps Making Things Worse for Trump: A Closer Look

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-It's been five days since Rudy Giuliani went on TV
and revealed that President Trump lied
about paying hush money to Stormy Daniels,
and they still don't have their story straight.
For more on this, it's time for "A Closer Look."
[ Cheers and applause ]
Trump's story about paying hush money to a porn star
has taken more twists and turns than, well, a porn star.
[ Laughter ]
As you may recall, the president originally insisted
that he nothing to do with the payment,
didn't know anything about the payment,
and didn't know where his lawyer Michael Cohen
got the money to make the payment,
while Cohen himself claimed
he never told Trump about the payment
and Trump never reimbursed him.
Then, Trump hired Count Chocula's bookie as his lawyer,
and went on TV and completely blew up that story.
Giuliani told everyone that Trump
had reimbursed Cohen for that payment
and that Donald Trump did know what it was for.
And then the next day, Trump himself tweeted
that Cohen had...
...with Daniels.
So that's where things stood as of Thursday.
Then for some reason, Trump talked to reporters on Friday
and tried to walk back Rudy's comments,
which he had already confirmed with his own tweets
by claiming Rudy didn't know what he was talking about.
-I'll tell you what.
Rudy is a great guy, but he just started a day ago.
But he really has his heart into it, he's working hard,
he's learning the subject matter.
He started yesterday. Ah...
He'll get his facts straight.
He's a great guy.
-Yeah.
[ Laughter ]
Give the kid a break!
He's only 73, going on Nosferatu.
[ Laughter ]
He's...
[ Cheers and applause ]
He's a former mayor and U.S. attorney
who's now the lawyer for the president of the United States,
and Trump talks about him like he's a trainee at Chipotle.
[ Laughter ]
Excuse me, my burrito fell apart.
[ Imitating Trump ] I'm sorry, he just started yesterday.
He's a great guy. Rudy! You got to tuck the tortilla!
I'm sorry. He'll learn. He's a great guy.
[ Laughter ]
[ Cheers and applause ]
So, Rudy...
Rudy, in an attempt to get Trump off the hook
for possibly violating campaign finance law,
revealed that Trump had lied,
which Trump confirmed through his tweets,
and then tried to unconfirm the next day.
Of course, this is a no-win situation for Trump.
Either he admits that he lied or says his lawyer's lying,
which might be why Trump tried to claim
that it was other people who were getting the facts wrong
without mentioning any of those other people by name.
-Virtually everything said has been said incorrectly
and it's been said wrong
or it's been covered wrong by the press.
It's actually very simple. It's actually very simple,
but there has been a lot of misinformation, really.
People wanting to say -- and I say, "You know what?
Learn before you speak. It's a lot easier."
-Learn...
[ Laughter ]
Learn before you speak.
You should learn to speak before you speak.
Seriously, if it's so simple,
then why don't you just explain it?
Trump's only move when he lies is to lie so confidently
that you'll think you're crazy.
He even walks up to reporters like a guy who's about to lie.
[ Imitating Trump ] Okay, okay, okay.
I can explain.
[ Laughter ]
Trump then stopped by the gaggle of reporters again
and tried to claim that he actually hadn't lied
about the Stormy Daniels payment
when he said on Air Force One last month
that he didn't know anything about it.
-We're not changing any stories.
See? Excuse me. Excuse me.
No, but you have to --
Excuse me, you take a look at what I said.
You go back and take a look.
You'll see what I said.
Excuse me. Excuse me.
You go take a look at what we said.
-Okay, let's all go take a look at what he said.
So, either he was lying then or he's lying now
or that's really Alec Baldwin on the plane.
[ Laughter ]
[ Cheers and applause ]
Also, is it me or does Trump always seem
to say stuff that's incriminating
while there's an engine running behind him?
Trump's only going to agree to an interview with Robert Mueller
if they do it on a runway at La Guardia.
[ Imitating Trump ] So then, Vladimir Putin said --
[ White noise ]
Oh, yeah, so maybe that is collusion.
That might be collusion then.
[ Cheers and applause ]
So, Trump's official story now is that his lawyer
got his facts wrong because it was his first day on the job.
But hey, at least now we know Rudy Giuliani
doesn't know what he's talking about and should not be trusted.
I assume the Trump administration's next step
was to make sure he never went on TV again.
-Joining me now, attorney for President Trump
and former mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani.
Did you misspeak or did people
not interpret what you were saying?
Were you talking about the facts
or were you talking about the law, Mr. Mayor?
-I'm talking about the law and the conclusion.
The facts -- The facts I-I'm still learning.
This is, you know, 1.2 million documents.
I've been in the case for two weeks, virtually one day
in comparison to other people.
So I'm not an expert on the facts yet.
I'm getting there.
But I am an expert on the law.
-What are you talking about?
Trump's gonna be the first client who pleads insanity
on behalf of his lawyer.
[ Imitating Trump ] You have to throw this case out of court.
The guy's a loon.
On Saturday, Giuliani also whined about what he claimed was
the comparatively soft treatment that Hillary Clinton got,
but did it in a way that, if I were his client,
would not exactly inspire confidence in his legal acumen.
-When you juxtapose that against the so-called "investigation"
of Hillary Clinton, where she was basically given a warning,
she deletes, she bleached --
-Nice, nice, nice. Poor little Hillary.
We got to be nice to her.
-I'm sorry, is he...?
Did he just pet his own hand?
Rudy Giuliani's like a Bond villain
who can't afford a real cat.
Or he had a cat.
I mean...
[ Cheers and applause ]
He probably had a cat and the cat was like,
"This guy's crazy. I'm out of here. Goodbye.
Go to law school."
And if you thought it would be difficult
for Giuliani to make things worse,
he somehow found a way by waking up on Sunday
and doing yet another TV interview, this time on ABC,
where he again seemed at a loss to reconcile his account
with the various lies Trump has told.
For example, last week, Giuliani told BuzzFeed that...
So, the president was secretly reimbursing his lawyer
for a hush payment to a porn star while he was in office,
because that's what you want the president focusing on.
Mr. President, the generals think we should bomb Syria.
[ Imitating Trump ] Wait a minute, is Syria the blonde?
I liked her. I liked.
But...I understand, these things have to happen.
[ Applause ]
So, Giuliani's comments made it very clear
that Trump was aware of the arrangement
and agreed to pay Cohen back over the course of 2017,
which means his comments last month on Air Force One,
when he claimed he had no idea about the payment.
were clearly a lie.
And yet, when Giuliani was asked on Sunday
how his BuzzFeed comments square with Trump's comments,
he stammered his way through an unconvincing answer.
-So the president did know about this after the campaign.
-Can't say that. I mean --
At some point, yes, but it could've been recently,
it could've been a while back.
Those are the facts that we're still w-working on,
and that, you know, may be in a little bit of dispute.
This is more rumor than it is anything else.
-But that's what you said. You said that to BuzzFeed.
-But here's the re-- Well, yeah, I mean, that's --
that's one of the possibilities and one of the rumors.
Uh, the reality is -- -You stated it as fact.
-Well, maybe I did, but I --
right now, I'm at the point where I'm learning,
and it -- I can only -- I can't prove that.
I can just say it's rumor. I can prove it's rumor,
but I can't prove it's fact.
-Man.
You guys, this burrito is really falling apart.
[ Imitating Trump ] Rudy! Rudy!
Why do you have guacamole all over your face?
In fact, Giuliani could not seem to stop himself
from blurting out embarrassing
and potential incriminating plans about the case.
For example, he again repeated his argument that
even if the money was campaign-related,
it didn't violate campaign finance law,
and mentioned that he himself
has also made similar arrangements for his clients.
-This was for another purpose,
to protect him, to protect his family.
It may have involved the campaign.
Doesn't matter.
And it would've been done under any other circumstances
if there was no campaign.
-If that's the case, then why wasn't --
-And I can prove that has been done on numerous times,
not necessarily with President Trump,
but with any other people that I and other lawyers
have represented.
-I'm sorry, I just needed to point something out.
What's with the diamond-encrusted pinky ring?
Are you trying to look like a mob lawyer?
I'm surprised he didn't do the interview in a velour tracksuit.
[ Laughter ]
If you don't want people to think you're evil,
don't look like you're trying to collect all six Infinity Stones.
But one of the biggest revelations from Giuliani
in this interview was the admission
that Cohen might have also paid hush money to other women
on Trump's behalf.
Giuliani was trying to claim that because
this was a standard operating procedure for Trump and Cohen,
it didn't count as a campaign finance violation,
and in the process, he said this.
-I did make clear -- and I don't know what they are yet,
I will know -- there were other things involved
that had nothing to do with Stormy Daniels.
In other words, other amounts of money.
Uh, this was not uncommon for him to do that.
If I were him and I were the president's lawyer
and I had done this in the past
and it had worked out in the past,
I would not go to him and bother him
two weeks before the election with this thing.
-You said he -- this was a regular arrangement
he had with Michael Cohen, so did Michael Cohen make payments
to other women for the president?
-I have no knowledge of that.
Uh...but I would -- I would think if it was necessary, yes.
-Oh, my God, Rudy.
What is wrong with you?
It almost like he challenged himself to confess
to at least one crime per interview.
[ Laughter ]
Soon, he's just gonna start cold-calling TV shows
to tell them about illegal stuff Trump did.
"Hello, caller, you're on QVC."
"When Trump was a real-estate developer,
he took kickbacks from the mob!
Also, how much is that pinky ring?"
[ Laughter ]
What this episode should make blindly obvious,
as if it hadn't already been obvious for years
since he first claimed
that President Obama wasn't born here,
is that Trump and his inner circle are serial,
habitual liars.
They lie constantly, and they do it on purpose.
This particular case is as clear-cut
as you can possibly get.
The media needs to just call these
what they are -- lies.
If not, you're just doing this to Trump.
-Nice, nice, nice.
-This has been "A Closer Look."
[ Cheers and applause ]
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