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SERIES WE'RE DOING TONIGHT BEGINS WITH TONY SCHWARTZ ON THE
BEGINS WITH TONY SCHWARTZ ON THE STATE OF MIND OF TRUMP.
STATE OF MIND OF TRUMP. >>> BUT I BEGIN WITH BREAKING
>>> BUT I BEGIN WITH BREAKING NEWS.
NEWS. THE CLAIMS BY MICHAEL COHEN THAT
THE CLAIMS BY MICHAEL COHEN THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS IN ON A
DONALD TRUMP WAS IN ON A POTENTIAL CONSPIRACY AT TRUMP
POTENTIAL CONSPIRACY AT TRUMP TOWER ARE THE BIG NEWS RIGHT
TOWER ARE THE BIG NEWS RIGHT NOW.
NOW. THEY'RE BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY AT
THEY'RE BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
THE WHITE HOUSE. DONALD TRUMP IS FORMERLY DENYING
DONALD TRUMP IS FORMERLY DENYING HE WAS IN ON THIS MEETING, OR
HE WAS IN ON THIS MEETING, OR THAT HE APPROVED IT BEFORE IT
THAT HE APPROVED IT BEFORE IT HAPPENED.
HAPPENED. COHEN, THOUGH, REPORTEDLY
COHEN, THOUGH, REPORTEDLY WILLING TO TELL THIS ENTIRE
WILLING TO TELL THIS ENTIRE ALLEGATION DIRECTLY TO BOB
ALLEGATION DIRECTLY TO BOB MUELLER.
MUELLER. NOW, DONALD TRUMP SAYS, NO, HE
NOW, DONALD TRUMP SAYS, NO, HE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE MEETING,
DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE MEETING, SOMETHING HE AND HIS SON HAVE
SOMETHING HE AND HIS SON HAVE INSISTED OVER THE LAST YEAR.
INSISTED OVER THE LAST YEAR. >> DID YOU KNOW AT THE TIME THAT
>> DID YOU KNOW AT THE TIME THAT THEY HAD THE MEETING?
THEY HAD THE MEETING? >> NO, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING
>> NO, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE MEETING.
ABOUT THE MEETING. IT MUST HAVE BEEN A VERY
IT MUST HAVE BEEN A VERY UNIMPORTANT MEETING, I NEVER
UNIMPORTANT MEETING, I NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THAT.
EVEN HEARD OF THAT. >> DID YOU TELL YOUR FATHER
>> DID YOU TELL YOUR FATHER ANYTHING ABOUT THIS?
ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? >> NO.
>> NO. IT WAS SUCH A NOTHING, THERE WAS
IT WAS SUCH A NOTHING, THERE WAS NOTHING TO TELL.
NOTHING TO TELL. >> THERE WAS NOTHING TO TELL.
>> THERE WAS NOTHING TO TELL. DO YOU BELIEVE DON JR. AND
DO YOU BELIEVE DON JR. AND DONALD TRUMP?
DONALD TRUMP? OR DO YOU BELIEVE THESE REPORTS
OR DO YOU BELIEVE THESE REPORTS THAT MICHAEL COHEN SAYS THERE
THAT MICHAEL COHEN SAYS THERE WAS SOMETHING TO TELL, AND THEY
WAS SOMETHING TO TELL, AND THEY WERE IN ON IT?
WERE IN ON IT? HERE ARE THE OTHER INDICATIONS
HERE ARE THE OTHER INDICATIONS THAT TRUMP HAD SOME KIND OF
THAT TRUMP HAD SOME KIND OF HEADS UP, THREE HOURS AFTER DON
HEADS UP, THREE HOURS AFTER DON JR. CONFIRMED THE TRUMP TOWER
JR. CONFIRMED THE TRUMP TOWER MEETING IN AN E-MAIL, THEN
MEETING IN AN E-MAIL, THEN CANDIDATE TRUMP PROMISED A PRESS
CANDIDATE TRUMP PROMISED A PRESS CONFERENCE WITH, YES, NEW DIRT
CONFERENCE WITH, YES, NEW DIRT ON CLINTON.
ON CLINTON. >> I AM GOING TO GIVE A MAJOR
>> I AM GOING TO GIVE A MAJOR SPEECH ON PROBABLY MONDAY OF
SPEECH ON PROBABLY MONDAY OF NEXT WEEK.
NEXT WEEK. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE
ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE WITH THE CLINTONS.
TAKEN PLACE WITH THE CLINTONS. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IT
I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IT VERY INFORMATIVE, AND VERY, VERY
VERY INFORMATIVE, AND VERY, VERY INTERESTING.
INTERESTING. >> DON JR. SAYS THE RUSSIANS
>> DON JR. SAYS THE RUSSIANS DIDN'T GIVE HIM ANY ACTIONABLE
DIDN'T GIVE HIM ANY ACTIONABLE DIRT AND THE PROMISED PRESS
DIRT AND THE PROMISED PRESS CONFERENCE ON THE CLINTONS NEVER
CONFERENCE ON THE CLINTONS NEVER OCCURRED.
OCCURRED. THE RUSSIANS DID APPEAR TO SCORE
THE RUSSIANS DID APPEAR TO SCORE A VICTORY WITH THIS ACCESS TO
A VICTORY WITH THIS ACCESS TO THE CAMPAIGN AT THE HIGHEST
THE CAMPAIGN AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS.
LEVELS. OF COURSE, WE'RE ALSO LEARNING
OF COURSE, WE'RE ALSO LEARNING THAT THE RUSSIAN LAWYER AT THE
THAT THE RUSSIAN LAWYER AT THE METING WAS NOT ONLY CONNECTED TO
METING WAS NOT ONLY CONNECTED TO THE KREMLIN, SHE WAS A
THE KREMLIN, SHE WAS A HIGH-LEVEL TRUSTED ADVISER,
HIGH-LEVEL TRUSTED ADVISER, E-MAILS DISCLOSED SHOWED SHE
E-MAILS DISCLOSED SHOWED SHE WORKED AS A GHOST WRITER OR
WORKED AS A GHOST WRITER OR OTHER RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT
OTHER RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT LAWYERS, GOT HELP ON HER OWN
LAWYERS, GOT HELP ON HER OWN CASES AND ALL OF THAT HELPS ADD
CASES AND ALL OF THAT HELPS ADD CONTEXT TO WHAT WAS GOING ON AND
CONTEXT TO WHAT WAS GOING ON AND HOW HIGH LEVEL OF A CONSPIRACY
HOW HIGH LEVEL OF A CONSPIRACY THIS MAY HAVE ALLEGEDLY BEEN.
THIS MAY HAVE ALLEGEDLY BEEN. ALL OF THIS SWIRLING TODAY WITH
ALL OF THIS SWIRLING TODAY WITH DON JR. AND BOB MUELLER IN THE
DON JR. AND BOB MUELLER IN THE MIX.
MIX. LOOK AT THIS QUITE AMAZING
LOOK AT THIS QUITE AMAZING PHOTOGRAPH THAT HAS JUST GONE
PHOTOGRAPH THAT HAS JUST GONE PUBLIC.
PUBLIC. THIS IS A SCENE YOU'RE LOOKING
THIS IS A SCENE YOU'RE LOOKING AT TODAY, YOU CAN SEE BOB
AT TODAY, YOU CAN SEE BOB MUELLER THE SPECIAL COUNSEL
MUELLER THE SPECIAL COUNSEL SITTING A FEW FEET AWAY FROM
SITTING A FEW FEET AWAY FROM DONALD TRUMP JR., OF COURSE AT
DONALD TRUMP JR., OF COURSE AT THE CENTER OF THIS PART OF THE
THE CENTER OF THIS PART OF THE INVESTIGATION, WHO'S THERE ON
INVESTIGATION, WHO'S THERE ON THE PHONE PLANK FLANKED BY
THE PHONE PLANK FLANKED BY SECURITY.
SECURITY. THAT WAS THE SCENE JUST THIS
THAT WAS THE SCENE JUST THIS MORNING AS THEY PREPARED TO
MORNING AS THEY PREPARED TO BOARD THEIR PLANES.
BOARD THEIR PLANES. I'M JOINED NOW BY FORMER FEDERAL
I'M JOINED NOW BY FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR JOYCE VANCE, JENNIFER
PROSECUTOR JOYCE VANCE, JENNIFER REUBEN, AND DAVID CORN HAS BEEN
REUBEN, AND DAVID CORN HAS BEEN COVERING THIS STORY SINCE DAY
COVERING THIS STORY SINCE DAY ONE.
ONE. DAVID, AS WE LOOK AT THAT PHOTO,
DAVID, AS WE LOOK AT THAT PHOTO, AND WE'LL PUT IT BACK UP ON THE
AND WE'LL PUT IT BACK UP ON THE SCREEN, WALK US THROUGH WHAT YOU
SCREEN, WALK US THROUGH WHAT YOU SEE BETWEEN THESE MEN HERE
SEE BETWEEN THESE MEN HERE SEPARATED BY JUST A FEW FEET,
SEPARATED BY JUST A FEW FEET, THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE
THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE TELLS US BOB MUELLER WAS NOT
TELLS US BOB MUELLER WAS NOT AWARE THAT THAT WAS DONALD TRUMP
AWARE THAT THAT WAS DONALD TRUMP JR., AND THAT THEY ARE NOT
JR., AND THAT THEY ARE NOT CONFIRMING THAT ASPECT OF IT.
CONFIRMING THAT ASPECT OF IT. BUT WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THIS
BUT WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THIS PHOTO?
PHOTO? >> WHAT I SEE IS THE GUY IN
>> WHAT I SEE IS THE GUY IN CHARGE OF AN INVESTIGATION AND A
CHARGE OF AN INVESTIGATION AND A GUY WHO IS THE SUBJECT OF AN
GUY WHO IS THE SUBJECT OF AN INVESTIGATION THAT JUST GOT MORE
INVESTIGATION THAT JUST GOT MORE PROFOUND.
PROFOUND. WE HAVE TO PREFACE EVERYTHING,
WE HAVE TO PREFACE EVERYTHING, ARI, WITH IF THE ACCOUNT FROM
ARI, WITH IF THE ACCOUNT FROM MICHAEL COHEN IS TRUE, BUT, BUT,
MICHAEL COHEN IS TRUE, BUT, BUT, BUT.
BUT. SO IF THE ACCOUNT IS TRUE, IT IS
SO IF THE ACCOUNT IS TRUE, IT IS A TREMENDOUS CHANGE IN THE
A TREMENDOUS CHANGE IN THE LANDSCAPE.
LANDSCAPE. WHAT IT DOES IS SHOW US TWO
WHAT IT DOES IS SHOW US TWO THINGS.
THINGS. ONE, THAT DONALD TRUMP, FROM THE
ONE, THAT DONALD TRUMP, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WAS IN ON AN
VERY BEGINNING, WAS IN ON AN ATTEMPT AT COLLUSION, AN ATTEMPT
ATTEMPT AT COLLUSION, AN ATTEMPT TO CONSPIRE WITH A PLOT THAT WAS
TO CONSPIRE WITH A PLOT THAT WAS DESCRIBED TO DONALD TRUMP JR. AS
DESCRIBED TO DONALD TRUMP JR. AS A SECRET OPERATION BY THE
A SECRET OPERATION BY THE KREMLIN TO HELP TRUMP.
KREMLIN TO HELP TRUMP. SO IF TRUMP KNOWS ABOUT THAT
SO IF TRUMP KNOWS ABOUT THAT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, AND IS
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, AND IS IN ON IT, I THINK THAT HAS A LOT
IN ON IT, I THINK THAT HAS A LOT OF LEGAL, BUT EVEN MORE SO,
OF LEGAL, BUT EVEN MORE SO, POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS.
POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS. PLUS IF HE'S TOLD ABOUT THIS,
PLUS IF HE'S TOLD ABOUT THIS, AND EVEN IF NOTHING CAME OUT OF
AND EVEN IF NOTHING CAME OUT OF THE MEETING, REMEMBER THROUGHOUT
THE MEETING, REMEMBER THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN AND UP TO NOW
THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN AND UP TO NOW HE KEEPS DENYING OR DISMISSING
HE KEEPS DENYING OR DISMISSING THE RUSSIAN OPERATION.
THE RUSSIAN OPERATION. COULD HAVE BEEN A 400-POUND GUY
COULD HAVE BEEN A 400-POUND GUY IN A BASEMENT.
IN A BASEMENT. THE RUSSIANS DIDN'T DO THIS.
THE RUSSIANS DIDN'T DO THIS. WE DON'T KNOW THE RUSSIANS DID
WE DON'T KNOW THE RUSSIANS DID THIS.
THIS. THEY KEPT DOING THAT.
THEY KEPT DOING THAT. IF HE WAS TOLD IN JUNE 2016 THAT
IF HE WAS TOLD IN JUNE 2016 THAT RUSSIA WANTED TO WORK WITH HIM
RUSSIA WANTED TO WORK WITH HIM ON A SECRET PLAN TO HELP HIM AND
ON A SECRET PLAN TO HELP HIM AND HURT HILLARY CLINTON, AND THEN
HURT HILLARY CLINTON, AND THEN WENT THROUGH ALL THOSE DENIALS,
WENT THROUGH ALL THOSE DENIALS, WELL, IT SHOWS HE WAS COVERING
WELL, IT SHOWS HE WAS COVERING UP FOR PUTIN AND FOR PUTIN'S
UP FOR PUTIN AND FOR PUTIN'S OPERATION.
OPERATION. SO COLLUSION AND COVERUP, EACH
SO COLLUSION AND COVERUP, EACH SIDE OF THIS EQUATION JUST GOT
SIDE OF THIS EQUATION JUST GOT DEEPER.
DEEPER. >> YOU SAY COVERING UP FOR
>> YOU SAY COVERING UP FOR PUTIN.
PUTIN. JENNIFER REUBEN, ALL OF THIS
JENNIFER REUBEN, ALL OF THIS INVESTIGATIVE BREAKTHROUGH STUFF
INVESTIGATIVE BREAKTHROUGH STUFF IS COMING ON THE HEELS OF WHAT
IS COMING ON THE HEELS OF WHAT REMAINS A HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL
REMAINS A HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL SUMMIT BETWEEN THESE TWO MEN.
SUMMIT BETWEEN THESE TWO MEN. HERE WAS PUTIN INVITING TRUMP TO
HERE WAS PUTIN INVITING TRUMP TO THE MOSCOW FOR A MEETING TODAY.
THE MOSCOW FOR A MEETING TODAY. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> WE ARE READY TO INVITE
>> WE ARE READY TO INVITE PRESIDENT TRUMP TO MOSCOW.
PRESIDENT TRUMP TO MOSCOW. BE MY GUEST.
BE MY GUEST. HE HAS SUCH AN INVITATION, AND I
HE HAS SUCH AN INVITATION, AND I TOLD HIM THAT.
TOLD HIM THAT. I AM READY TO GO TO WASHINGTON
I AM READY TO GO TO WASHINGTON AS WELL.
AS WELL. I REPEAT, ONCE AGAIN, IF THE
I REPEAT, ONCE AGAIN, IF THE RIGHT CONDITIONS FOR WORK ARE
RIGHT CONDITIONS FOR WORK ARE CREATED.
CREATED. >> JENNIFER?
>> JENNIFER? >> THE RIGHT CONDITIONS FOR
>> THE RIGHT CONDITIONS FOR WORK.
WORK. ISN'T THAT AN OMINOUS PHRASE.
ISN'T THAT AN OMINOUS PHRASE. WHAT DOES HE WANT UP FRONT?
WHAT DOES HE WANT UP FRONT? IT MAKES EVERYONE, DEMOCRATS,
IT MAKES EVERYONE, DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, MEMBERS OF HIS OWN
REPUBLICANS, MEMBERS OF HIS OWN ADMINISTRATION, VERY NERVOUS
ADMINISTRATION, VERY NERVOUS WHAT HE IS DOING IN THESE
WHAT HE IS DOING IN THESE TWO-HOUR, ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS
TWO-HOUR, ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WITH PUTIN.
WITH PUTIN. SOMETHING STRIKES ME, AS DAVID
SOMETHING STRIKES ME, AS DAVID WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS MEETING,
WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS MEETING, EVEN THE FACT OF THE MEETING,
EVEN THE FACT OF THE MEETING, THE FACT THAT HIS PEOPLE TOOK A
THE FACT THAT HIS PEOPLE TOOK A MEETING WITH RUSSIAN OPERATIVES
MEETING WITH RUSSIAN OPERATIVES IS ITSELF THEN LEVERAGE AND A
IS ITSELF THEN LEVERAGE AND A REASON FOR BLACKMAIL BECAUSE IF
REASON FOR BLACKMAIL BECAUSE IF THAT COMES OUT DURING THE
THAT COMES OUT DURING THE CAMPAIGN, OH, THEY WERE
CAMPAIGN, OH, THEY WERE CONSPIRING WITH THE RUSSIANS,
CONSPIRING WITH THE RUSSIANS, THAT IN ITSELF IS A WAY OF
THAT IN ITSELF IS A WAY OF APPLYING PRESSURE TO THE
APPLYING PRESSURE TO THE PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. SO THE PRESIDENT FROM DAY ONE
SO THE PRESIDENT FROM DAY ONE HAS BEEN VERY UPSET THAT SOMEHOW
HAS BEEN VERY UPSET THAT SOMEHOW HIS ENTIRE PRESIDENCY WOULD BE
HIS ENTIRE PRESIDENCY WOULD BE DISCREDITED BY THE NOTION THAT
DISCREDITED BY THE NOTION THAT THE RUSSIANS HAD HELPED HIM.
THE RUSSIANS HAD HELPED HIM. GUESS WHAT?
GUESS WHAT? THE RUSSIANS DID HELP HIM.
THE RUSSIANS DID HELP HIM. IF HE KNEW ABOUT THAT, THAT'S
IF HE KNEW ABOUT THAT, THAT'S REASON TO FIRE JAMES COMEY,
REASON TO FIRE JAMES COMEY, REASON FOR HIM TO CRAFT A PHONY
REASON FOR HIM TO CRAFT A PHONY EXPLANATION FOR THAT MEETING IN
EXPLANATION FOR THAT MEETING IN TRUMP TOWER.
TRUMP TOWER. IT'S REASON FOR A LOT OF
IT'S REASON FOR A LOT OF BEHAVIOR THAT SEEMED ODD AT THE
BEHAVIOR THAT SEEMED ODD AT THE TIME BUT IN FACT NOW CAN JUST BE
TIME BUT IN FACT NOW CAN JUST BE SEEN AS A DIRECT COVERUP.
SEEN AS A DIRECT COVERUP. >> JOYCE, THIS GOES TO THE OTHER
>> JOYCE, THIS GOES TO THE OTHER PART, WE TRY TO BE VERY FAIR AND
PART, WE TRY TO BE VERY FAIR AND PRECISE HERE, WE'VE HAD JAY
PRECISE HERE, WE'VE HAD JAY GOLDBERG, A TRUMP LAWYER ON,
GOLDBERG, A TRUMP LAWYER ON, OTHER TRUMP SURROGATES, WE HAD
OTHER TRUMP SURROGATES, WE HAD MADISON JESSE ON TO SPEAK ON
MADISON JESSE ON TO SPEAK ON THAT NEWS, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO
THAT NEWS, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO REFER TO THE TRUMP TOWER SET OF
REFER TO THE TRUMP TOWER SET OF STATEMENTS FROM THE PRESIDENT IS
STATEMENTS FROM THE PRESIDENT IS THAT HE HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY
THAT HE HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY LYING AND CAUGHT LYING ABOUT IT.
LYING AND CAUGHT LYING ABOUT IT. THAT'S A JOURNALISTIC
THAT'S A JOURNALISTIC ESTABLISHED FACT AT THIS POINT.
ESTABLISHED FACT AT THIS POINT. SO WHAT DO YOU AS A PROSECUTOR
SO WHAT DO YOU AS A PROSECUTOR THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT?
THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT? LET ME LOOK AT THIS SOUND BYTE
LET ME LOOK AT THIS SOUND BYTE HERE FROM "MEET THE PRESS" WHEN
HERE FROM "MEET THE PRESS" WHEN THEY INITIALLY LIED AND DENIED
THEY INITIALLY LIED AND DENIED DICTATING THIS AIR FORCE ONE
DICTATING THIS AIR FORCE ONE STATEMENT.
STATEMENT. TAKE A LOOK.
TAKE A LOOK. >> THE PRESIDENT WAS NOT
>> THE PRESIDENT WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE DRAFTING OF THE
INVOLVED IN THE DRAFTING OF THE STATEMENT AND DID NOT ISSUE THE
STATEMENT AND DID NOT ISSUE THE STATEMENT.
STATEMENT. IT CAME FROM DONALD TRUMP JR.
IT CAME FROM DONALD TRUMP JR. >> HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T DICTATE.
>> HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T DICTATE. BUT, YOU KNOW, HE -- LIKE I
BUT, YOU KNOW, HE -- LIKE I SAID, HE WEIGHED IN, OFFERED
SAID, HE WEIGHED IN, OFFERED SUGGESTION LIKE ANY FATHER WOULD
SUGGESTION LIKE ANY FATHER WOULD DO.
DO. >> AS I SAY, THAT'S NOT TRUE AND
>> AS I SAY, THAT'S NOT TRUE AND IT COMES FROM THE LIES AT THE
IT COMES FROM THE LIES AT THE TOP FROM DONALD TRUMP, JOYCE.
TOP FROM DONALD TRUMP, JOYCE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PART OF
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PART OF IT, WITHOUT PRESUPPOSING
IT, WITHOUT PRESUPPOSING ANYONE'S GUILT, BUT JUST KNOWING
ANYONE'S GUILT, BUT JUST KNOWING THEY WERE LYING ABOUT THAT, AND
THEY WERE LYING ABOUT THAT, AND THEN YOU ADD MICHAEL COHEN HERE
THEN YOU ADD MICHAEL COHEN HERE POTENTIALLY ALLEGING TO MUELLER
POTENTIALLY ALLEGING TO MUELLER THAT DONALD TRUMP HAD ALL THIS
THAT DONALD TRUMP HAD ALL THIS ADVANCE NOTICE, WHAT DOES THAT
ADVANCE NOTICE, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE INVESTIGATION IN YOUR
DO TO THE INVESTIGATION IN YOUR VIEW AS A PROSECUTOR?
VIEW AS A PROSECUTOR? >> YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT'S
>> YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT'S COVERUP HERE, THE STATEMENT THAT
COVERUP HERE, THE STATEMENT THAT HE DICTATED ON AIR FORCE ONE HAS
HE DICTATED ON AIR FORCE ONE HAS NEVER MADE ANY SENSE.
NEVER MADE ANY SENSE. ON THE ONE HAND IF THE MEETING
ON THE ONE HAND IF THE MEETING WAS UNIMPORTANT, AND AS SOMEONE
WAS UNIMPORTANT, AND AS SOMEONE SAID AT THE TIME A NOTHING
SAID AT THE TIME A NOTHING BURGER, THEN WHY DOES THE
BURGER, THEN WHY DOES THE PRESIDENT GO TO THE TROUBLE OF
PRESIDENT GO TO THE TROUBLE OF LYING ABOUT IT?
LYING ABOUT IT? THAT STATEMENT THAT THE
THAT STATEMENT THAT THE PRESIDENT DRAFTED FOR DON JR.
PRESIDENT DRAFTED FOR DON JR. HAS ONLY EVER MADE SENSE IF THIS
HAS ONLY EVER MADE SENSE IF THIS MEETING WAS CRITICALLY
MEETING WAS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, AND EQUALLY IMPORTANT
IMPORTANT, AND EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO COVER UP.
TO COVER UP. SO NOW WHAT WE SEE, IF COHEN'S
SO NOW WHAT WE SEE, IF COHEN'S STATEMENT IS TRUE, AND DAVID
STATEMENT IS TRUE, AND DAVID CORN IS CORRECT, WE NEED TO
CORN IS CORRECT, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER IT CAN BE
UNDERSTAND WHETHER IT CAN BE AUTHENTICATED, AND ALSO
AUTHENTICATED, AND ALSO PRECISELY WHAT COHEN WILL HAVE
PRECISELY WHAT COHEN WILL HAVE TO SAY WHEN HE MAKES IT.
TO SAY WHEN HE MAKES IT. BUT IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE TRUE,
BUT IF IT TURNS OUT TO BE TRUE, A LOT OF THESE PIECES, PUZZLE
A LOT OF THESE PIECES, PUZZLE PIECES THAT ARE SCATTERED ACROSS
PIECES THAT ARE SCATTERED ACROSS THE TABLE START TO CLICK INTO
THE TABLE START TO CLICK INTO PLACE.
PLACE. >> WE'LL PUT UP, WHILE YOU'RE
>> WE'LL PUT UP, WHILE YOU'RE TALKING, WE'RE GOING TO PUT UP
TALKING, WE'RE GOING TO PUT UP WHEN THE PRESIDENT'S LAWYERS
WHEN THE PRESIDENT'S LAWYERS ADMITTED THEY LIED ABOUT ALL
ADMITTED THEY LIED ABOUT ALL THIS.
THIS. GO AHEAD.
GO AHEAD. >> BOTH ON THE COLLUSION PIECE,
>> BOTH ON THE COLLUSION PIECE, COLLUSION IS A LOT MORE LIKELY,
COLLUSION IS A LOT MORE LIKELY, IF THE PRESIDENT KNEW ABOUT THIS
IF THE PRESIDENT KNEW ABOUT THIS MEETING IN ADVANCE, AND
MEETING IN ADVANCE, AND AUTHORIZED IT, AND BY THE SAME
AUTHORIZED IT, AND BY THE SAME TOKEN THE OBSTRUCTION PART OF
TOKEN THE OBSTRUCTION PART OF THE EQUATION REALLY COMES INTO
THE EQUATION REALLY COMES INTO FOCUS HERE.
FOCUS HERE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THIS
YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THIS REALLY STRANGE STATEMENT IN JULY
REALLY STRANGE STATEMENT IN JULY WHERE THE PRESIDENT GOES OUT,
WHERE THE PRESIDENT GOES OUT, HE'S CAMPAIGNING, AND HE SAYS,
HE'S CAMPAIGNING, AND HE SAYS, RUSSIA, IF YOU'RE LISTENING,
RUSSIA, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP
HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP ME OUT, FIND HILLARY'S E-MAILS.
ME OUT, FIND HILLARY'S E-MAILS. THAT'S ALWAYS SEEMED A LITTLE
THAT'S ALWAYS SEEMED A LITTLE BIT AUK YARDWKWARD AND OUT OF PL
BIT AUK YARDWKWARD AND OUT OF PL PERHAPS WE WILL ULTIMATELY
PERHAPS WE WILL ULTIMATELY UNDERSTAND THAT AS TRUMP TAKING
UNDERSTAND THAT AS TRUMP TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WHATEVER WAS
ADVANTAGE OF WHATEVER WAS OFFERED TO HIM DURING THIS JUNE
OFFERED TO HIM DURING THIS JUNE TRUMP TOWER'S MEETING.
TRUMP TOWER'S MEETING. PERHAPS EVERYTHING THEY'VE SAID
PERHAPS EVERYTHING THEY'VE SAID TO US ABOUT THIS MEETING SO FAR
TO US ABOUT THIS MEETING SO FAR HAS BEEN A LIE, AND IT REALLY
HAS BEEN A LIE, AND IT REALLY WAS A PROFFER OF WHATEVER RUSSIA
WAS A PROFFER OF WHATEVER RUSSIA CAN DO TO HELP YOU WIN.
CAN DO TO HELP YOU WIN. >> THAT STATEMENT YOU CITE WAS
>> THAT STATEMENT YOU CITE WAS TWO YEARS AGO TODAY.
TWO YEARS AGO TODAY. HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, DAVID CORN.
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, DAVID CORN. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. AND IT'S A STATEMENT THAT WE
AND IT'S A STATEMENT THAT WE KNOW MORE ABOUT NOW BECAUSE THE
KNOW MORE ABOUT NOW BECAUSE THE INDICTMENT THAT ROBERT MUELLER
INDICTMENT THAT ROBERT MUELLER PUT OUT RECENTLY OF 12 RUSSIAN
PUT OUT RECENTLY OF 12 RUSSIAN MILITARY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN HACKING THE
WHO WERE INVOLVED IN HACKING THE DEMOCRATS TO HELP TRUMP AND HURT
DEMOCRATS TO HELP TRUMP AND HURT HILLARY CLINTON IN THAT
HILLARY CLINTON IN THAT INDICTMENT MUELLER DESCRIBES
INDICTMENT MUELLER DESCRIBES THIS DAY AS THE DAY LATE AT
THIS DAY AS THE DAY LATE AT NIGHT.
NIGHT. HE PUTS THAT INTO THE INDICTMENT
HE PUTS THAT INTO THE INDICTMENT FOR A REASON, LATE AT NIGHT THEY
FOR A REASON, LATE AT NIGHT THEY STARTED TARGETING OR TRYING TO
STARTED TARGETING OR TRYING TO PENETRATE HILLARY CLINTON'S OWN
PENETRATE HILLARY CLINTON'S OWN PERSONAL E-MAILS, AND E-MAILS OF
PERSONAL E-MAILS, AND E-MAILS OF PEOPLE ON THE CAMPAIGN AS IF
PEOPLE ON THE CAMPAIGN AS IF THEY WERE TAKING DONALD TRUMP'S
THEY WERE TAKING DONALD TRUMP'S INSTRUCTIONS AND GUIDANCE.
INSTRUCTIONS AND GUIDANCE. SO HERE, YOU KNOW, TO GO BACK TO
SO HERE, YOU KNOW, TO GO BACK TO JOYCE'S POINT, WE UNDERSTAND
JOYCE'S POINT, WE UNDERSTAND MORE NOW.
MORE NOW. IF DONALD TRUMP WAS TOLD ABOUT
IF DONALD TRUMP WAS TOLD ABOUT THIS MEETING, IT MEANS HE WAS
THIS MEETING, IT MEANS HE WAS TOLD THAT RUSSIA WANTED TO HELP
TOLD THAT RUSSIA WANTED TO HELP HIM SECRETLY.
HIM SECRETLY. AND HERE HE IS NOW PUBLICLY
AND HERE HE IS NOW PUBLICLY COMMUNICATING WITH RUSSIA SAY,
COMMUNICATING WITH RUSSIA SAY, HEY, THIS IS HOW I WANT YOU TO
HEY, THIS IS HOW I WANT YOU TO HELP.
HELP. I MEAN, COLLUSION, CONSPIRACY,
I MEAN, COLLUSION, CONSPIRACY, OBSTRUCTION, COVERUP, ALL THESE
OBSTRUCTION, COVERUP, ALL THESE NARRATIVES WHICH INTERTWINE ARE
NARRATIVES WHICH INTERTWINE ARE BOLSTERED BY MICHAEL COHEN'S
BOLSTERED BY MICHAEL COHEN'S ACCOUNT IF TRUE.
ACCOUNT IF TRUE. >> AND SO JENNIFER WHEN DAVID
>> AND SO JENNIFER WHEN DAVID LAYS IT OUT LIKE THAT, IT'S
LAYS IT OUT LIKE THAT, IT'S CHILLING BECAUSE THE MORE BENIGN
CHILLING BECAUSE THE MORE BENIGN EARLIER INTERPRETATIONS THAT
EARLIER INTERPRETATIONS THAT WERE AVAILABLE WERE LOWER-LEVEL
WERE AVAILABLE WERE LOWER-LEVEL PEOPLE DID THIS, OR EVERYONE'S
PEOPLE DID THIS, OR EVERYONE'S AN IDIOT, AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY
AN IDIOT, AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND ALL THE MEETINGS THEY
UNDERSTAND ALL THE MEETINGS THEY WERE GOING TO.
WERE GOING TO. BY THE WAY, IDIOT DEFENSES CAN
BY THE WAY, IDIOT DEFENSES CAN WORK IN THE LAW.
WORK IN THE LAW. IT'S NOT A CRIME TO BE STUPID
IT'S NOT A CRIME TO BE STUPID AND GO TO THE WRONG MEETING.
AND GO TO THE WRONG MEETING. WHAT DAVID LAYS OUT WHEN YOU PUT
WHAT DAVID LAYS OUT WHEN YOU PUT THESE PIECES TOGETHER, ACCORDING
THESE PIECES TOGETHER, ACCORDING TO COHEN'S THEORY OF THE CASE.
TO COHEN'S THEORY OF THE CASE. WE ALWAYS CAN REPORT THERE WILL
WE ALWAYS CAN REPORT THERE WILL BE DENIALS, THERE WILL BE OTHER
BE DENIALS, THERE WILL BE OTHER PERSPECTIVES.
PERSPECTIVES. BUT ACCORDING TO COHEN'S THEORY
BUT ACCORDING TO COHEN'S THEORY OF THE CASE, YOU'RE ADDING
OF THE CASE, YOU'RE ADDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE THAT
TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE THAT SUGGESTS, NO, THEY WEREN'T
SUGGESTS, NO, THEY WEREN'T IDIOTS.
IDIOTS. AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL THEY HAD A
AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL THEY HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT THEY
LOT OF INFORMATION THAT THEY THEN ACTED ON.
THEN ACTED ON. >> AND ALL THE IDIOT BEHAVIOR
>> AND ALL THE IDIOT BEHAVIOR WAS IN ONE DIRECTION.
WAS IN ONE DIRECTION. NO ONE EVER THOUGHT, OH, I MET
NO ONE EVER THOUGHT, OH, I MET WITH THE RUSSIANS WHEN THEY
WITH THE RUSSIANS WHEN THEY DIDN'T.
DIDN'T. THEY KEPT SAYING THEY NEVER MET
THEY KEPT SAYING THEY NEVER MET WITH THE RUSSIANS WHEN THEY DID.
WITH THE RUSSIANS WHEN THEY DID. EVERY PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT
EVERY PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT WE'VE SEEN, THE PUBLIC
WE'VE SEEN, THE PUBLIC STATEMENTS, THE PRIVATE
STATEMENTS, THE PRIVATE STATEMENTS, THE FACT OF THE
STATEMENTS, THE FACT OF THE MEETING, THE ATTEMPT TO COVER UP
MEETING, THE ATTEMPT TO COVER UP THE MEETING, IT ALL MAKES SENSE
THE MEETING, IT ALL MAKES SENSE ONLY IF THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO
ONLY IF THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO SOLICIT HELP FROM THE RUSSIANS.
SOLICIT HELP FROM THE RUSSIANS. AND IF YOU RECALL WAY BACK WHEN
AND IF YOU RECALL WAY BACK WHEN THE TRUMP PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS
THE TRUMP PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS SAID WHAT'S SO BAD ABOUT TAKING
SAID WHAT'S SO BAD ABOUT TAKING A MEETING LIKE THIS THIS?
A MEETING LIKE THIS THIS? THIN WOULD TAKE INFORMATION
THIN WOULD TAKE INFORMATION THEY'RE OFFERED.
THEY'RE OFFERED. THAT'S HOW CAMPAIGNS RUN.
THAT'S HOW CAMPAIGNS RUN. THAT WAS A VERY TELLING
THAT WAS A VERY TELLING STATEMENT.
STATEMENT. I THINK IT SUGGESTS TO US THAT
I THINK IT SUGGESTS TO US THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY THOUGHT.
THAT'S WHAT THEY THOUGHT. THEY THOUGHT, HEY, THE RUSSIANS
THEY THOUGHT, HEY, THE RUSSIANS ARE GOING TO HELP US, THAT'S
ARE GOING TO HELP US, THAT'S SWELL.
SWELL. AND IT'S ONLY BEEN AS TIME GOES
AND IT'S ONLY BEEN AS TIME GOES ON THAT THEY REALIZE HOW
ON THAT THEY REALIZE HOW POLITICALLY AND LEGALLY PERILOUS
POLITICALLY AND LEGALLY PERILOUS THAT WAS.
THAT WAS. SO HENCE THE COVERUP.
SO HENCE THE COVERUP. >> RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT
>> RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HIJACK ELECTIONS
SUPPOSED TO HIJACK ELECTIONS WITH FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS.
WITH FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS. >> YEAH, WHO KNEW?

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