
WE CALL THEM MORE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PRO BUSINESS
COMMERCE PRO BUSINESS REPUBLICANS NERVOUS.
REPUBLICANS NERVOUS. JOINING ME NOW IS A POLITICIAN
JOINING ME NOW IS A POLITICIAN YOU MIGHT SAY IS REPRESENTATIVE
YOU MIGHT SAY IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT WING OF THE PARTY, MAYBE
OF THAT WING OF THE PARTY, MAYBE THE TRUMP SKEPTIC WING OF THE
THE TRUMP SKEPTIC WING OF THE PARTY.
PARTY. IT'S OHIO GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH.
IT'S OHIO GOVERNOR JOHN KASICH. HE, BY THE WAY, REPRESENTED
HE, BY THE WAY, REPRESENTED OHIO'S 12th DISTRICT IN CONGRESS
OHIO'S 12th DISTRICT IN CONGRESS FOR NINE TERMS.
FOR NINE TERMS. GOVERNOR KASICH, GOOD TO SEE
GOVERNOR KASICH, GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR.
YOU, SIR. >> YEAH, I ALSO AS GOVERNOR HAD
>> YEAH, I ALSO AS GOVERNOR HAD A WIN IN THOSE AREAS TOO.
A WIN IN THOSE AREAS TOO. >> YES, YOU DID THAT.
>> YES, YOU DID THAT. >> I'M NOT SOME CHAMBER OF
>> I'M NOT SOME CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TYPE -- LOOK, I'M A
COMMERCE TYPE -- LOOK, I'M A POSITIVE PAUSEOPULIST.
POSITIVE PAUSEOPULIST. >> I KNOW YOU ARE.
>> I KNOW YOU ARE. >> COME ON, DON'T BE DEFINING ME
>> COME ON, DON'T BE DEFINING ME THAT WAY.
THAT WAY. >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A SLICE OF THE
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A SLICE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY YOU SPEAK TO
REPUBLICAN PARTY YOU SPEAK TO BETTER THAN DONALD TRUMP DOES.
BETTER THAN DONALD TRUMP DOES. AND IT'S THIS SLICE OF THE
AND IT'S THIS SLICE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT SEEMS TO
REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT SEEMS TO BE WAVERING ON HIM.
BE WAVERING ON HIM. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT?
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? >> CHUCK, THERE'S NO QUESTION
>> CHUCK, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT PEOPLE SENT A MESSAGE TO
THAT PEOPLE SENT A MESSAGE TO THE PARTY, TO REPUBLICANS, KNOCK
THE PARTY, TO REPUBLICANS, KNOCK IT OFF.
IT OFF. THE CHAOS, THE DIVISIONS, I MEAN
THE CHAOS, THE DIVISIONS, I MEAN KIDS BEING SEPARATED FROM THEIR
KIDS BEING SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS AT THE BORDER.
PARENTS AT THE BORDER. THESE CRAZY TARIFFS.
THESE CRAZY TARIFFS. HEY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOUR
HEY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOUR HEALTH CARE.
HEALTH CARE. WE'RE GOING TO KILL OBAMACARE,
WE'RE GOING TO KILL OBAMACARE, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
WHICH MEANS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY HEALTH CARE.
HAVE ANY HEALTH CARE. OR IF YOU HAVE A PRE-EXISTING
OR IF YOU HAVE A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION, WELL, YOU MIGHT BE
CONDITION, WELL, YOU MIGHT BE OUT OF LUCK.
OUT OF LUCK. THIS IS KIND OF WHAT GETS
THIS IS KIND OF WHAT GETS COMMUNICATED.
COMMUNICATED. AND WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE, I
AND WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE, I CANNOT DESCRIBE TO YOU HOW
CANNOT DESCRIBE TO YOU HOW AMAZING IT WAS THAT THE RACE WAS
AMAZING IT WAS THAT THE RACE WAS CLOSE BECAUSE THIS DELAWARE
CLOSE BECAUSE THIS DELAWARE COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE --
COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE -- >> EXPLAIN THAT.
>> EXPLAIN THAT. >> WELL, THE REPUBLICAN IN
>> WELL, THE REPUBLICAN IN DELAWARE COUNTY WOULD NORMALLY
DELAWARE COUNTY WOULD NORMALLY GET ABOUT 70% OF THE VOTE.
GET ABOUT 70% OF THE VOTE. THIS WAS LIKE 50-50.
THIS WAS LIKE 50-50. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT HOW DONALD
AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT HOW DONALD TRUMP DID IN THE GENERAL IN
TRUMP DID IN THE GENERAL IN DELAWARE COUNTY, HE PROBABLY GOT
DELAWARE COUNTY, HE PROBABLY GOT AROUND, I DON'T KNOW, 65 OR 70.
AROUND, I DON'T KNOW, 65 OR 70. BUT THEN THIS CANDIDATE GETS
BUT THEN THIS CANDIDATE GETS 50%.
50%. AND IT'S BECAUSE A LOT OF
AND IT'S BECAUSE A LOT OF REPUBLICAN WOMEN, THEY DON'T
REPUBLICAN WOMEN, THEY DON'T LIKE THIS NOISE.
LIKE THIS NOISE. THEY DON'T LIKE THIS DIVISION.
THEY DON'T LIKE THIS DIVISION. IT WAS INTERESTING WHAT ONE OF
IT WAS INTERESTING WHAT ONE OF YOUR PANELISTS SAID ABOUT THE
YOUR PANELISTS SAID ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE WHO IS NOT
DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE WHO IS NOT THAT FORCEFUL.
THAT FORCEFUL. HE WAS JUST NOT -- NEITHER OF
HE WAS JUST NOT -- NEITHER OF THEM REALLY EMERGED GREAT.
THEM REALLY EMERGED GREAT. I THINK IT WAS BASICALLY A VOTE
I THINK IT WAS BASICALLY A VOTE ON WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT ABOUT
ON WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT ABOUT TRUMP.
TRUMP. >> THAT'S INTERESTING YOU SAY
>> THAT'S INTERESTING YOU SAY THAT.
THAT. I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THAT
I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THAT YOU COULD CHARACTERIZE THIS
YOU COULD CHARACTERIZE THIS RACE, THIS IS NO PERSONAL KNOCK
RACE, THIS IS NO PERSONAL KNOCK AGAINST EITHER CANDIDATE, BUT
AGAINST EITHER CANDIDATE, BUT THAT MANY VOTERS SAW IT AS
THAT MANY VOTERS SAW IT AS GENERIC DEMOCRAT VERSUS GENERIC
GENERIC DEMOCRAT VERSUS GENERIC REPUBLICAN.
REPUBLICAN. IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT IN
IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT IN YOUR VIEW?
YOUR VIEW? >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT
>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, CHUCK, BUT HERE'S WHAT I
MEANS, CHUCK, BUT HERE'S WHAT I DO KNOW.
DO KNOW. I KNOW THAT IN AREAS, SUBURBS
I KNOW THAT IN AREAS, SUBURBS PARTICULARLY WHERE REPUBLICANS
PARTICULARLY WHERE REPUBLICANS WOULD WIN, THE REPUBLICAN LOST.
WOULD WIN, THE REPUBLICAN LOST. I KNOW THAT THERE WERE THESE
I KNOW THAT THERE WERE THESE REPUBLICAN WOMEN THAT I'VE HEARD
REPUBLICAN WOMEN THAT I'VE HEARD TALKING WHENEVER I'M OUT AND
TALKING WHENEVER I'M OUT AND ABOUT, THEY JUST WERE EITHER NOT
ABOUT, THEY JUST WERE EITHER NOT GOING TO VOTE OR THEY WERE GOING
GOING TO VOTE OR THEY WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT.
TO VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT. WE MAY BE IN THE BEGINNING OF
WE MAY BE IN THE BEGINNING OF ENTERING IN SOME WAYS A POST
ENTERING IN SOME WAYS A POST PARTISAN ENVIRONMENT WHERE
PARTISAN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STOP
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STOP LISTENING SO MUCH TO THE PARTY
LISTENING SO MUCH TO THE PARTY AND START TAKING THE MEASURE OF
AND START TAKING THE MEASURE OF WHAT THEY'RE SEEING.
WHAT THEY'RE SEEING. I MEAN IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING
I MEAN IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING TIME.
TIME. BUT IF YOU'RE NOT POSITIVE, IF
BUT IF YOU'RE NOT POSITIVE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A VISION, IF YOU
YOU DON'T HAVE A VISION, IF YOU DON'T UNITE PEOPLE, IF YOU DON'T
DON'T UNITE PEOPLE, IF YOU DON'T LIFT PEOPLE AND YOU'RE NOT AN
LIFT PEOPLE AND YOU'RE NOT AN IDEA CANDIDATE, YOU'RE GOING TO
IDEA CANDIDATE, YOU'RE GOING TO STRUGGLE AND MAYBE LOSE.
STRUGGLE AND MAYBE LOSE. >> YOU ON ANOTHER SUNDAY SHOW, A
>> YOU ON ANOTHER SUNDAY SHOW, A FINE BROADCAST, YOU MADE
FINE BROADCAST, YOU MADE MENTION, YOU SAID YOU HAD A
MENTION, YOU SAID YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH TROY BALDERSON
CONVERSATION WITH TROY BALDERSON GOING WHY DID YOU ASK PRESIDENT
GOING WHY DID YOU ASK PRESIDENT TRUMP TO COME IN?
TRUMP TO COME IN? AND THEN YOU SAID HE DIDN'T.
AND THEN YOU SAID HE DIDN'T. WHERE DO YOU FALL?
WHERE DO YOU FALL? DO YOU THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
DO YOU THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP'S APPEARANCE ON SATURDAY HELPED
APPEARANCE ON SATURDAY HELPED O'CONNOR, HELPED BALDERSON, OR
O'CONNOR, HELPED BALDERSON, OR WAS IT ALREADY BAKED IN?
WAS IT ALREADY BAKED IN? >> YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK, CHUCK,
>> YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK, CHUCK, IS I THINK THE ATTENTION OF THE
IS I THINK THE ATTENTION OF THE NATIONAL MEDIA GOT MORE PEOPLE
NATIONAL MEDIA GOT MORE PEOPLE TO VOTE.
TO VOTE. I THINK THAT HAPPENED.
I THINK THAT HAPPENED. I THINK THAT THE FACT THAT THERE
I THINK THAT THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A FOCUS.
WAS A FOCUS. >> LEFT OR RIGHT, DO YOU KNOW
>> LEFT OR RIGHT, DO YOU KNOW WHICH WAY?
WHICH WAY? DO YOU KNOW WHICH WAY?
DO YOU KNOW WHICH WAY? >> NO, I THINK IT JUST GOT
>> NO, I THINK IT JUST GOT PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. BUT YOU SEE, AGAIN, THERE WERE
BUT YOU SEE, AGAIN, THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP WHO
PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR TRUMP WHO NOW ARE EITHER NOT VOTING OR
NOW ARE EITHER NOT VOTING OR VOTING FOR THE DEMOCRAT OR, YOU
VOTING FOR THE DEMOCRAT OR, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE SOME
KNOW, YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE SOME OF THESE DEMOCRATS WHO KIND OF
OF THESE DEMOCRATS WHO KIND OF SUPPORTED TRUMP WHO KIND OF GO
SUPPORTED TRUMP WHO KIND OF GO BACK TO THEIR PARTY, I THINK,
BACK TO THEIR PARTY, I THINK, HERE.
HERE. BUT THIS WAS SO CLOSE AND SO
BUT THIS WAS SO CLOSE AND SO STUNNINGLY CLOSE IN A
STUNNINGLY CLOSE IN A DISTRICT -- LOOK, THE
DISTRICT -- LOOK, THE CONGRESSMAN THAT WAS THERE
CONGRESSMAN THAT WAS THERE BEFORE IT IN THE LAST ELECTION
BEFORE IT IN THE LAST ELECTION WON BY 17 POINTS.
WON BY 17 POINTS. THIS IS A MORE AND MORE
THIS IS A MORE AND MORE REPUBLICAN DISTRICT THAN WHEN I
REPUBLICAN DISTRICT THAN WHEN I HAD IT, MUCH MORE REPUBLICAN.
HAD IT, MUCH MORE REPUBLICAN. YOU KNOW, EVEN IN A SPECIAL
YOU KNOW, EVEN IN A SPECIAL ELECTION, THERE WERE MORE VOTES
ELECTION, THERE WERE MORE VOTES IN THIS SPECIAL ELECTION THAN
IN THIS SPECIAL ELECTION THAN PEOPLE HAD ANTICIPATED.
PEOPLE HAD ANTICIPATED. BUT AGAIN, WHEN YOU -- HERE'S
BUT AGAIN, WHEN YOU -- HERE'S THE CHALLENGE FOR THE
THE CHALLENGE FOR THE REPUBLICANS.
REPUBLICANS. IF YOU ARE LOSING COLLEGE
IF YOU ARE LOSING COLLEGE EDUCATED WOMEN, IF YOU ARE
EDUCATED WOMEN, IF YOU ARE LOSING MILLENIALS, IF YOU ARE
LOSING MILLENIALS, IF YOU ARE LOSING MINORITIES BECAUSE YOU'RE
LOSING MINORITIES BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GETTING MUCH OF THAT VOTE AT
NOT GETTING MUCH OF THAT VOTE AT ALL, YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM.
ALL, YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM. THE DEMOCRAT PROBLEM, THE
THE DEMOCRAT PROBLEM, THE QUESTION IS THEY NEED TO BE MORE
QUESTION IS THEY NEED TO BE MORE CENTER LEFT.
CENTER LEFT. THEY'RE WAY OUT ON THE LEFT.
THEY'RE WAY OUT ON THE LEFT. NOW, THIS GUY WASN'T.
NOW, THIS GUY WASN'T. THIS GUY WHO RAN HERE WASN'T AND
THIS GUY WHO RAN HERE WASN'T AND IT'S GOING TO BE HOW FOR OTHER
IT'S GOING TO BE HOW FOR OTHER DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE MORE
DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE MORE MODERATE.
MODERATE. >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS. IT SEEMS LIKE SOME REPUBLICANS
IT SEEMS LIKE SOME REPUBLICANS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE MAKEUP OF
SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE MAKEUP OF THEIR DISTRICTS, AND I THINK
THEIR DISTRICTS, AND I THINK THAT THIS DISTRICT PROVED EXTRA
THAT THIS DISTRICT PROVED EXTRA CHALLENGING TO MR. BALDERSON,
CHALLENGING TO MR. BALDERSON, WHICH IS TO APPEAL TO THE TRUMP
WHICH IS TO APPEAL TO THE TRUMP BASE TO GET THEM FIRED UP, YOU
BASE TO GET THEM FIRED UP, YOU ACTUALLY TURN OFF THE DELAWARE
ACTUALLY TURN OFF THE DELAWARE COUNTY SUBURBAN VOTER, AND TO
COUNTY SUBURBAN VOTER, AND TO CONVINCE THEM TO COME TO YOU,
CONVINCE THEM TO COME TO YOU, YOU MIGHT TURN OFF THE TRUMP
YOU MIGHT TURN OFF THE TRUMP BASE.
BASE. IS THAT WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS
IS THAT WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS CREATED HERE, WHERE A CANDIDATE
CREATED HERE, WHERE A CANDIDATE HAS TO MAKE THIS BASICALLY
HAS TO MAKE THIS BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE CHOICE?
IMPOSSIBLE CHOICE? >> OKAY, CHUCK, CHUCK, IF YOU'RE
>> OKAY, CHUCK, CHUCK, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE A CANDIDATE, WHY
GOING TO BE A CANDIDATE, WHY DON'T YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE
DON'T YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE FOR.
FOR. >> TUCHOUCHE.
>> TUCHOUCHE. >> LET'S NOT DO ALL THESE
>> LET'S NOT DO ALL THESE CALCULATIONS LIKE YOU'RE IN A
CALCULATIONS LIKE YOU'RE IN A LABORATORY AND YOU'VE GOT THESE
LABORATORY AND YOU'VE GOT THESE TEST TUBES.
TEST TUBES. FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE FOR.
FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE FOR. IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, WHY WOULD
IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO WIN?
YOU WANT TO WIN? WHY WOULD YOU RUN IF YOU DON'T
WHY WOULD YOU RUN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PASSION FOR WHAT YOU WANT
HAVE A PASSION FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH?
TO ACCOMPLISH? AND SO MY ADVICE TO CANDIDATES,
AND SO MY ADVICE TO CANDIDATES, I HAD A DEMOCRAT COME IN TO SEE
I HAD A DEMOCRAT COME IN TO SEE ME.
ME. WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO.
WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO. I SAID YOU HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF
I SAID YOU HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF YOUR BASE BUT MAKE SURE
YOUR BASE BUT MAKE SURE REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDENTS
REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDENTS HAVE RESPECT FOR YOU AND THAT
HAVE RESPECT FOR YOU AND THAT THEY LIKE YOU AND THAT MEANS
THEY LIKE YOU AND THAT MEANS THAT YOU CONDUCT YOURSELF IN A
THAT YOU CONDUCT YOURSELF IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN IF YOU'RE
DIFFERENT WAY THAN IF YOU'RE JUST REPORTING TO THE PARTY
JUST REPORTING TO THE PARTY APPARATUS.
APPARATUS. FORGET IT, I'VE NEVER DONE THAT.
FORGET IT, I'VE NEVER DONE THAT. IN MY RE-ELECTION, CHUCK, I
IN MY RE-ELECTION, CHUCK, I NEVER ATTACKED BARACK OBAMA.
NEVER ATTACKED BARACK OBAMA. I TALKED ABOUT HEALTH CARE, I
I TALKED ABOUT HEALTH CARE, I TALKED ABOUT JOB GROWTH.
TALKED ABOUT JOB GROWTH. I WON 86 OUT OF 88 COUNTIES IN
I WON 86 OUT OF 88 COUNTIES IN THIS STATE.
THIS STATE. SO THAT'S THE MESSAGE FOR
SO THAT'S THE MESSAGE FOR POLITICIANS IN THESE.
POLITICIANS IN THESE. BE YOURSELF, HAVE A VISION, SAY
BE YOURSELF, HAVE A VISION, SAY WHAT IT IS AND TRY TO BE IN
WHAT IT IS AND TRY TO BE IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE.
TOUCH WITH PEOPLE. >> IS THERE ANY -- YOU'RE NOT
>> IS THERE ANY -- YOU'RE NOT AFRAID OF SAYING WHEN YOU
AFRAID OF SAYING WHEN YOU DISAGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT AND
DISAGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT AND YOU'RE PRETTY TOUGH ON HIM.
YOU'RE PRETTY TOUGH ON HIM. YOU'RE TOUGH ON THE ENVIRONMENT
YOU'RE TOUGH ON THE ENVIRONMENT THAT'S BEEN CREATED RIGHT NOW
THAT'S BEEN CREATED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF SOME OF HIS POLICY
BECAUSE OF SOME OF HIS POLICY CHOICES.
CHOICES. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T ENDORSE HIM
THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T ENDORSE HIM BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVITY.
BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVITY. >> MANY REPUBLICANS ARE AFRAID
>> MANY REPUBLICANS ARE AFRAID OF MAKING THAT CONTRAST.
OF MAKING THAT CONTRAST. DO YOU THINK THAT IS MAKING
DO YOU THINK THAT IS MAKING IT -- THAT IS WHY THE SWING
IT -- THAT IS WHY THE SWING SUBURBAN VOTER IS HESITANT TO
SUBURBAN VOTER IS HESITANT TO TRUST A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR
TRUST A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR CONGRESS, THAT THEY'RE NOT
CONGRESS, THAT THEY'RE NOT AFRAID TO SAY ABOUT THE
AFRAID TO SAY ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S POLICIES WHAT YOU
PRESIDENT'S POLICIES WHAT YOU ARE DOING?
ARE DOING? >> YEAH, BUT I THINK THEY SHOULD
>> YEAH, BUT I THINK THEY SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM PERSONALITY.
STAY AWAY FROM PERSONALITY. THIS IS NOT ABOUT ATTACKING THE
THIS IS NOT ABOUT ATTACKING THE PRESIDENT FOR HIS PERSONALITY,
PRESIDENT FOR HIS PERSONALITY, THIS IS ABOUT ISSUES.
THIS IS ABOUT ISSUES. WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS IF
WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS IF YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN, WHY AREN'T
YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN, WHY AREN'T YOU STANDING UP AND SAYING IF
YOU STANDING UP AND SAYING IF YOU HAVE A PRE-EXISTING
YOU HAVE A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION ON HEALTH CARE, WE'RE
CONDITION ON HEALTH CARE, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE ABLE
GOING TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE ABLE TO GET HEALTH CARE.
TO GET HEALTH CARE. IF THE PRESIDENT SAYS NO, WHY
IF THE PRESIDENT SAYS NO, WHY ARE YOU PUTTING UP WITH THAT?
ARE YOU PUTTING UP WITH THAT? WHEN YOU SEE FAMILY SEPARATION
WHEN YOU SEE FAMILY SEPARATION AT THE BORDER, WHY DON'T YOU SAY
AT THE BORDER, WHY DON'T YOU SAY IT'S WRONG?
IT'S WRONG? AND THESE TARIFFS, OR WHEN WE'RE
AND THESE TARIFFS, OR WHEN WE'RE OVERSEAS AND WE'RE INTO THIS
OVERSEAS AND WE'RE INTO THIS WRECKING BALL FOREIGN POLICY,
WRECKING BALL FOREIGN POLICY, JUST SAY YOU DON'T AGREE WITH
JUST SAY YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IT.
IT. IF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT, FIRST
IF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'VE
OF ALL, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT TO CATER TO ANYBODY TO WIN.
GOT TO CATER TO ANYBODY TO WIN. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO BE WHO
>> I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO BE WHO YOU ARE AND SAY WHAT YOU
YOU ARE AND SAY WHAT YOU BELIEVE.
BELIEVE. CHUCK, IF YOU DON'T WIN, GUESS
CHUCK, IF YOU DON'T WIN, GUESS WHAT, YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER LIFE
WHAT, YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER LIFE THAN IF YOU DO.
THAN IF YOU DO. THAT'S THE DIRTY LITTLE SECRET
THAT'S THE DIRTY LITTLE SECRET IN POLITICS.
IN POLITICS. >> BEFORE I LET YOU GO, YOUR
>> BEFORE I LET YOU GO, YOUR BELOVED OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY IS
BELOVED OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY IS IN A TOUGH POSITION RIGHT NOW.
IN A TOUGH POSITION RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A SEXUAL ABUSE
THERE'S A SEXUAL ABUSE INVESTIGATION INVOLVING THE
INVESTIGATION INVOLVING THE WRESTLING PROGRAM, THE URBAN
WRESTLING PROGRAM, THE URBAN MEYER SITUATION WHERE IT IS DID
MEYER SITUATION WHERE IT IS DID HE DO ENOUGH LOOKING OUT FOR
HE DO ENOUGH LOOKING OUT FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S A VICTIM OF
SOMEBODY WHO'S A VICTIM OF SPOUSAL ABUSE.
SPOUSAL ABUSE. DO YOU THINK THERE'S A CULTURAL
DO YOU THINK THERE'S A CULTURAL PROBLEM IN THE OHIO STATE
PROBLEM IN THE OHIO STATE ATHLETIC PROGRAM?
ATHLETIC PROGRAM? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S
>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S FIND OUT WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT
FIND OUT WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT COACH MEYER.
COACH MEYER. THEY NOW HAVE MARY JO WHITE IS
THEY NOW HAVE MARY JO WHITE IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
MY UNDERSTANDING. >> DO YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT
>> DO YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THIS INVESTIGATION WILL BE FAIR?
THIS INVESTIGATION WILL BE FAIR? >> OH, IN TERMS OF URBAN MEYER,
>> OH, IN TERMS OF URBAN MEYER, THE ANSWER IS YES.
THE ANSWER IS YES. NOW, THE WRESTLING PROBLEM AND
NOW, THE WRESTLING PROBLEM AND THE DIVING PROBLEM, CHUCK, IT
THE DIVING PROBLEM, CHUCK, IT WAS AT LEAST A YEAR, MAYBE TWO
WAS AT LEAST A YEAR, MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO WHEN I ASKED MY PEOPLE
YEARS AGO WHEN I ASKED MY PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE
TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE UNIVERSITY THAT STUDENTS HAVE A
UNIVERSITY THAT STUDENTS HAVE A PLACE TO GO THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL
PLACE TO GO THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL WHEN THEY CAN REPORT EITHER AN
WHEN THEY CAN REPORT EITHER AN ASSAULT ON THEM BECAUSE THEY MAY
ASSAULT ON THEM BECAUSE THEY MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT PROSECUTING
WANT TO THINK ABOUT PROSECUTING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE
A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD OR A PLACE THEY CAN GO
ROAD OR A PLACE THEY CAN GO WHERE THEY CAN BLOW THE WHISTLE
WHERE THEY CAN BLOW THE WHISTLE AND HAVE CONFIDENTIALITY.
AND HAVE CONFIDENTIALITY. AND WE HAVE ASKED THE
AND WE HAVE ASKED THE UNIVERSITIES TO BE ABLE TO SET
UNIVERSITIES TO BE ABLE TO SET THIS UP.
THIS UP. MANY OF THEM ARE MOVING IN THAT
MANY OF THEM ARE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE
DIRECTION, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE.
WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE. BUT THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE
BUT THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE ACROSS THIS COUNTRY FOR A
ACROSS THIS COUNTRY FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME.
SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME. AND THE UNIVERSITIES HAVE TO
AND THE UNIVERSITIES HAVE TO MAKE THIS A PRIORITY.
MAKE THIS A PRIORITY. I'VE GOT TWO DAUGHTERS GETTING
I'VE GOT TWO DAUGHTERS GETTING READY TO GO TO COLLEGE HERE.
READY TO GO TO COLLEGE HERE. ONE WE TAKE ON SUNDAY AND ONE
ONE WE TAKE ON SUNDAY AND ONE THREE WEEKS LATER.
THREE WEEKS LATER. I WANT THEM TO KNOW WHERE THEY
I WANT THEM TO KNOW WHERE THEY CAN GO AND THEY CAN REPORT AND
CAN GO AND THEY CAN REPORT AND THEY CAN BE SAFE AND THEY WILL
THEY CAN BE SAFE AND THEY WILL NOT BE COMPROMISED.
NOT BE COMPROMISED. THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE
THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. >> WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE IF
>> WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE IF YOUR DAUGHTERS WERE STARTING IN
YOUR DAUGHTERS WERE STARTING IN A SPORTING PROGRAM AT THE OHIO
A SPORTING PROGRAM AT THE OHIO STATE ATHLETIC PROGRAM THAT THEY
STATE ATHLETIC PROGRAM THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE MISTREATED?
WOULDN'T BE MISTREATED? >> SURE I WOULD.
>> SURE I WOULD. I AM CONFIDENT IN THAT.
I AM CONFIDENT IN THAT. BUT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UP IT.
BUT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UP IT. EVERYBODY NEEDS TO LOOK AT IT
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO LOOK AT IT AND YOU NEED TO EXAMINE IT AND
AND YOU NEED TO EXAMINE IT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO DO MORE AGGRESSIVELY
THEM TO DO MORE AGGRESSIVELY ACROSS THE STATE.
ACROSS THE STATE. OUGHT TO BE DONE ACROSS THE
OUGHT TO BE DONE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. >> GOVERNOR KASICH, I APPRECIATE
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