
HIS TEAM SAID HE COULDN'T MAKE IT.
IT. WE HOPE TO HAVE HIM ON SOME TIME
WE HOPE TO HAVE HIM ON SOME TIME SOON.
SOON. >>> PRESIDENT TRUMP IS WARNING
>>> PRESIDENT TRUMP IS WARNING OF VIOLENCE IF REPUBLICANS LOSE
OF VIOLENCE IF REPUBLICANS LOSE THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS.
THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS. NBC NEWS REVIEWED THE EXCERPTS
NBC NEWS REVIEWED THE EXCERPTS OF THE CLOSED MEETING WITH
OF THE CLOSED MEETING WITH EVANGELICAL LEADERS MONDAY
EVANGELICAL LEADERS MONDAY NIGHT.
NIGHT. THE GOP LOSES IN NOVEMBER,
THE GOP LOSES IN NOVEMBER, QUOTE, THEY WILL OVERTURN
QUOTE, THEY WILL OVERTURN EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE AND
EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE AND THEY'LL DO IT QUICKLY AND
THEY'LL DO IT QUICKLY AND VIOLENTLY.
VIOLENTLY. I'LL SAY THAT AGAIN -- THEY WILL
I'LL SAY THAT AGAIN -- THEY WILL DO IT QUICKLY AND THEY WILL DO
DO IT QUICKLY AND THEY WILL DO IT VIOLENTLY.
IT VIOLENTLY. JEREMY PETERS, THIS SOUNDS AN
JEREMY PETERS, THIS SOUNDS AN AWFUL LOT LIKE WHAT YOU WERE
AWFUL LOT LIKE WHAT YOU WERE WRITING ABOUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS
WRITING ABOUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK WHEN YOU SAID VIOLENCE
BACK WHEN YOU SAID VIOLENCE ACTUALLY SEEMS TO PERMEATE SO
ACTUALLY SEEMS TO PERMEATE SO MANY OF THESE GOP ADS.
MANY OF THESE GOP ADS. THEIR MESSAGES AND THE MESSAGING
THEIR MESSAGES AND THE MESSAGING IS SO GRIM ABOUT VIOLENCE,
IS SO GRIM ABOUT VIOLENCE, CRIMES, DRUGS AND NOW YOU HAVE
CRIMES, DRUGS AND NOW YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ACTUALLY WARNING
STATES ACTUALLY WARNING EVANGELICALS THAT IF DEMOCRATS
EVANGELICALS THAT IF DEMOCRATS WIN, THEY WILL RESORT TO
WIN, THEY WILL RESORT TO VIOLENCE.
VIOLENCE. >> IT'S LIKE IT'S 1968 ALL OVER
>> IT'S LIKE IT'S 1968 ALL OVER AGAIN, JOE, IN SOME OF THESE
AGAIN, JOE, IN SOME OF THESE REPUBLICAN ADS.
REPUBLICAN ADS. VIOLENCE MOBS ARE RAGING IN THE
VIOLENCE MOBS ARE RAGING IN THE STREETS AND THE ADDED ELEMENT
STREETS AND THE ADDED ELEMENT HERE, OF COURSE, IS ILLEGAL
HERE, OF COURSE, IS ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
IMMIGRATION. THE ARGUMENT THEY'RE MAKING IS
THE ARGUMENT THEY'RE MAKING IS DEMOCRATS WILL ABOLISH I.C.E.
DEMOCRATS WILL ABOLISH I.C.E. AND MAKE YOUR COMMUNITIES LESS
AND MAKE YOUR COMMUNITIES LESS SAFE, ALLOW PEOPLE LIKE MOLLIE
SAFE, ALLOW PEOPLE LIKE MOLLIE TIBBETTS, THE COLLEGE STUDENT IN
TIBBETTS, THE COLLEGE STUDENT IN IOWA TO BE MURDERED.
IOWA TO BE MURDERED. THIS IS THE KIND OF CHAOS THEY
THIS IS THE KIND OF CHAOS THEY WILL BRING.
WILL BRING. AND BY THE WAY, THEY'RE ALSO
AND BY THE WAY, THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO UNDO THE ELECTION OF
GOING TO UNDO THE ELECTION OF 2016.
2016. AND I THINK THAT'S THE GROUND ON
AND I THINK THAT'S THE GROUND ON WHICH A LOT OF REPUBLICANS WANT
WHICH A LOT OF REPUBLICANS WANT TO FIGHT THIS MIDTERM ELECTION,
TO FIGHT THIS MIDTERM ELECTION, TO MAKE IT A REFERENDUM ON 2016
TO MAKE IT A REFERENDUM ON 2016 ALL OVER AGAIN.
ALL OVER AGAIN. WILL YOU ELECT DEMOCRATS, ALLOW
WILL YOU ELECT DEMOCRATS, ALLOW THEM TO WIN AND THEN HAVE THEM
THEM TO WIN AND THEN HAVE THEM TURN AROUND AND IMPEACH
TURN AROUND AND IMPEACH PRESIDENT TRUMP?
PRESIDENT TRUMP? THIS ELECTION WAS PROBABLY
THIS ELECTION WAS PROBABLY HEADED THERE ANY WAY, BUT WITH
HEADED THERE ANY WAY, BUT WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP'S REMARKS
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S REMARKS YESTERDAY ABOUT VIOLENCE, I
YESTERDAY ABOUT VIOLENCE, I THINK HE MADE IT AS CLEAR AS DAY
THINK HE MADE IT AS CLEAR AS DAY THAT THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE
THAT THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE GOING.
GOING. THIS IS AS CLASSIC TRUMP.
THIS IS AS CLASSIC TRUMP. MY ENEMIES ARE MEAN.
MY ENEMIES ARE MEAN. THEY'RE MEAN TO ME.
THEY'RE MEAN TO ME. THEY'RE NASTY PEOPLE.
THEY'RE NASTY PEOPLE. AND THEY'RE VIOLENT, WHICH, OF
AND THEY'RE VIOLENT, WHICH, OF COURSE P IN ISOLATED CASES, YES,
COURSE P IN ISOLATED CASES, YES, THERE HAVE BEEN PROTESTS WITH
THERE HAVE BEEN PROTESTS WITH ANGRY DEMOCRATS OR ANGRY
ANGRY DEMOCRATS OR ANGRY LIBERALS, BUT TO REPRESENT THE
LIBERALS, BUT TO REPRESENT THE WHOLE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THIS WAY
WHOLE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THIS WAY IS DISINGENUOUS AND CLASSICALLY
IS DISINGENUOUS AND CLASSICALLY TRUMP.
TRUMP. >> WELL, AND HEIDI, I DON'T
>> WELL, AND HEIDI, I DON'T UNDERSTAND ACTUALLY WHY ANY
UNDERSTAND ACTUALLY WHY ANY REPUBLICANS WOULD FOLLOW DONALD
REPUBLICANS WOULD FOLLOW DONALD TRUMP DOWN THIS RAT HOLE BECAUSE
TRUMP DOWN THIS RAT HOLE BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ED
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ED GILLESPIE A MAN WHO SERVED HIS
GILLESPIE A MAN WHO SERVED HIS COUNTRY FOR DECADES AND SERVED
COUNTRY FOR DECADES AND SERVED IT WELL, HE WAS A CONSERVATIVE,
IT WELL, HE WAS A CONSERVATIVE, YES, BUT HE WAS RESPECTED BY
YES, BUT HE WAS RESPECTED BY PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE
PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.
AISLE. THE LAST TWO WEEKS HE TRASHED
THE LAST TWO WEEKS HE TRASHED HIS REPUTATION.
HIS REPUTATION. I'M SURE HE'LL GET IT BACK, BUT
I'M SURE HE'LL GET IT BACK, BUT LAST TWO WEEKS HE TRASHED HIS
LAST TWO WEEKS HE TRASHED HIS REPUTATION TRYING TO BE DONALD
REPUTATION TRYING TO BE DONALD TRUMP -- A DONALD TRUMP FIGURENE
TRUMP -- A DONALD TRUMP FIGURENE IN VIRGINIA, TALKING ABOUT MS-13
IN VIRGINIA, TALKING ABOUT MS-13 AND CONFEDERATE STATUES AND HE
AND CONFEDERATE STATUES AND HE GOT TROUNCED AT THE POLLS.
GOT TROUNCED AT THE POLLS. THIS DOESN'T WORK FOR PEOPLE
THIS DOESN'T WORK FOR PEOPLE UNLESS THEY ARE DONALD TRUMP,
UNLESS THEY ARE DONALD TRUMP, DOES IT?
DOES IT? >> DOESN'T WORK IN EVERY
>> DOESN'T WORK IN EVERY ELECTION, ALTHOUGH IT'S WORKED
ELECTION, ALTHOUGH IT'S WORKED CERTAINLY FOR PEOPLE LIKE RON
CERTAINLY FOR PEOPLE LIKE RON DESANTOS.
DESANTOS. BUT WITH THE INVOCATION OF THE
BUT WITH THE INVOCATION OF THE VIOLENCE, JOE, DO YOU REMEMBER
VIOLENCE, JOE, DO YOU REMEMBER THE RIGGED ELECTION?
THE RIGGED ELECTION? DO YOU REMEMBER THE ENTIRE
DO YOU REMEMBER THE ENTIRE RUN-UP TO 2016 WHEN DONALD TRUMP
RUN-UP TO 2016 WHEN DONALD TRUMP WAS TALKING ABOUT A RIGGED
WAS TALKING ABOUT A RIGGED ELECTION?
ELECTION? THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT HE'S DOING
THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT HE'S DOING HERE, WHICH IS TO EXCITE HIS
HERE, WHICH IS TO EXCITE HIS BASE, TO STIR RESENTMENT, TO
BASE, TO STIR RESENTMENT, TO MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE
MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN WRONGED AND THAT THEY'RE
BEEN WRONGED AND THAT THEY'RE BEING CHEATED AND HE'S DOING THE
BEING CHEATED AND HE'S DOING THE SAME THING IN THE RUN-UP TO THIS
SAME THING IN THE RUN-UP TO THIS ELECTION EXCEPT THIS ACTUALLY IS
ELECTION EXCEPT THIS ACTUALLY IS NOT THE SAME DONALD TRUMP IN
NOT THE SAME DONALD TRUMP IN 2016 BECAUSE HE HAD A TWO-PRONG
2016 BECAUSE HE HAD A TWO-PRONG MESSAGE.
MESSAGE. IT WASN'T JUST THE RACIAL
IT WASN'T JUST THE RACIAL RESENTMENT AND THE RACE BAITING,
RESENTMENT AND THE RACE BAITING, HE ACTUALLY HAD A POPULIST
HE ACTUALLY HAD A POPULIST ECONOMIC MESSAGE, AND WE'VE SEEN
ECONOMIC MESSAGE, AND WE'VE SEEN THAT COMPLETELY DIVORCED FROM
THAT COMPLETELY DIVORCED FROM THE DONALD TRUMP THAT WE SEE
THE DONALD TRUMP THAT WE SEE TODAY.
TODAY. AND SO I THINK THAT'S AN
AND SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT NOTE TO MAKE FOR THIS
IMPORTANT NOTE TO MAKE FOR THIS REASON BECAUSE IT CUTS BOTH
REASON BECAUSE IT CUTS BOTH WAYS.
WAYS. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FLORIDA, RACES LIKE FLORIDA,
FLORIDA, RACES LIKE FLORIDA, LIKE MICHIGAN, HE'S GOING TO GO
LIKE MICHIGAN, HE'S GOING TO GO DOWN THERE AND HIS ONLY MESSAGE
DOWN THERE AND HIS ONLY MESSAGE IS STIRRING RACIAL RESENTMENT
IS STIRRING RACIAL RESENTMENT AND CULTURAL DIVISION, WHAT'S
AND CULTURAL DIVISION, WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO?
THAT GOING TO DO? THAT IS GOING TO WORK ON THE
THAT IS GOING TO WORK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LEDGER TO
OTHER SIDE OF THE LEDGER TO REAWAKEN --
REAWAKEN -- >> OH MY GOSH.
>> OH MY GOSH. >> THE OBAMA COALITION BECAUSE
>> THE OBAMA COALITION BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT HILLARY CLINTON
THAT IS WHAT HILLARY CLINTON FAILED TO DO.
FAILED TO DO. SHE FAILED TO PUT THE OBAMA
SHE FAILED TO PUT THE OBAMA COALITION OF YOUNG PEOPLE AND
COALITION OF YOUNG PEOPLE AND MINORITIES BACK TOGETHER.
MINORITIES BACK TOGETHER. IF YOU LOOKED AT THE EXIT POLLS
IF YOU LOOKED AT THE EXIT POLLS IN CRITICAL SWING STATES LIKE
IN CRITICAL SWING STATES LIKE MICHIGAN, THOSE POPULATIONS
MICHIGAN, THOSE POPULATIONS DIDN'T TURN OUT.
DIDN'T TURN OUT. SO IF HE'S GOING TO DROP HIS
SO IF HE'S GOING TO DROP HIS ECONOMIC MESSAGE AND SIMPLY
ECONOMIC MESSAGE AND SIMPLY STOKE CULTURAL DIVISIONS AND
STOKE CULTURAL DIVISIONS AND RACIAL DIVISIONS, HE'S GOING TO
RACIAL DIVISIONS, HE'S GOING TO IGNITE THAT COALITION THAT WAS
IGNITE THAT COALITION THAT WAS CREDIT KAL TO PAST SUCCESS FOR
CREDIT KAL TO PAST SUCCESS FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. ELISE, WE SAW THAT IN ALABAMA IN
ELISE, WE SAW THAT IN ALABAMA IN WHAT'S TRADITIONALLY BEEN CALLED
WHAT'S TRADITIONALLY BEEN CALLED THE BLACK BELT OF CENTRAL
THE BLACK BELT OF CENTRAL ALABAMA, BLACK VOTERS CAME OUT
ALABAMA, BLACK VOTERS CAME OUT IN RECORD NUMBERS.
IN RECORD NUMBERS. I MEAN, IN AN OFF YEAR -- IT'S
I MEAN, IN AN OFF YEAR -- IT'S ONE OF THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY
ONE OF THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY THINGS I'VE EVER SEEN IN
THINGS I'VE EVER SEEN IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
AMERICAN POLITICS. IN AN OFF YEAR SPECIAL ELECTION
IN AN OFF YEAR SPECIAL ELECTION WHEN VOTING IS SUPPOSED TO BE
WHEN VOTING IS SUPPOSED TO BE EXTRAORDINARILY LOW FOR MINORITY
EXTRAORDINARILY LOW FOR MINORITY VOTERS, IN ALABAMA, BLACK VOTERS
VOTERS, IN ALABAMA, BLACK VOTERS CAME OUT, THEY MADE THE
CAME OUT, THEY MADE THE DIFFERENCE, ELECTED THE FIRST
DIFFERENCE, ELECTED THE FIRST DEMOCRAT TO THE UNITED STATES
DEMOCRAT TO THE UNITED STATES SENATE IN A QUARTER VICINITY.
SENATE IN A QUARTER VICINITY. ELISE, WHEN DONALD TRUMP TALKS
ELISE, WHEN DONALD TRUMP TALKS LIKE THIS, ALL HE'S DOING IS
LIKE THIS, ALL HE'S DOING IS REVVING UP HIS BASE.
REVVING UP HIS BASE. IT'S JUST LIKE I SAID YESTERDAY,
IT'S JUST LIKE I SAID YESTERDAY, WHEN HE WOULDN'T LOWER THE FLAG
WHEN HE WOULDN'T LOWER THE FLAG FOR JOHN McCAIN, ALL HE WAS
FOR JOHN McCAIN, ALL HE WAS DOING WAS BURNISHING JOHN
DOING WAS BURNISHING JOHN McCAIN'S LEGACY.
McCAIN'S LEGACY. >> WELL, WHEN I LOOK AT THAT
>> WELL, WHEN I LOOK AT THAT MEETING AND THINK ABOUT IT, IT
MEETING AND THINK ABOUT IT, IT IS JUST STILL ABSOLUTELY
IS JUST STILL ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING TO ME THAT HE DID THIS
SHOCKING TO ME THAT HE DID THIS IN FRONT OF AN AUDIENCE OF
IN FRONT OF AN AUDIENCE OF EVANGELICAL LEADERS.
EVANGELICAL LEADERS. I THINK IT'S SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE
I THINK IT'S SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE EVANGELICALS HAVE BEEN
EVANGELICALS HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTING TO ME
INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTING TO ME HOW THEY'VE BEEN WILLING TO
HOW THEY'VE BEEN WILLING TO OVERLOOK A LOT OF PRESIDENT
OVERLOOK A LOT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PERSONAL INDISCRETIONS
TRUMP'S PERSONAL INDISCRETIONS THAT THEY WOULDN'T FEEL THE SAME
THAT THEY WOULDN'T FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT AND CERTAINLY DID NOT
WAY ABOUT AND CERTAINLY DID NOT FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT WHEN IT
FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT WHEN IT CAME TO BILL CLINTON.
CAME TO BILL CLINTON. SO THAT INCREASED TOLERANCE FOR
SO THAT INCREASED TOLERANCE FOR WHATEVER DONALD TRUMP DOES,
WHATEVER DONALD TRUMP DOES, JUSTIFYING IT AS LONG AS YOU GET
JUSTIFYING IT AS LONG AS YOU GET THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES, WE
THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES, WE SEE THAT BEING AN ON GOING --
SEE THAT BEING AN ON GOING -- THAT IS WHERE EVANGELICAL
THAT IS WHERE EVANGELICAL LEADERSHIP OVERALL WITH SOME
LEADERSHIP OVERALL WITH SOME NOTABLE DISSENTERS, THAT'S WHERE
NOTABLE DISSENTERS, THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.
THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. JEREMY, I WOULD JUST ASK YOU,
JEREMY, I WOULD JUST ASK YOU, WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM
WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM EVANGELICAL LEADERS THAT YOU'RE
EVANGELICAL LEADERS THAT YOU'RE TALKING TO THESE DAYS?
TALKING TO THESE DAYS? >> WELL, SO FAR NO MAJOR CRACKS
>> WELL, SO FAR NO MAJOR CRACKS IN THE COALITION.
IN THE COALITION. AND I THINK THAT YOU WON'T SEE
AND I THINK THAT YOU WON'T SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF THINGS
SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF THINGS KEEP GOING THE WAY THEY'RE
KEEP GOING THE WAY THEY'RE GOING.
GOING. IT STILL REMAINS UNIMAGINABLE TO
IT STILL REMAINS UNIMAGINABLE TO ME THAT EVANGELICALS WILL BREAK
ME THAT EVANGELICALS WILL BREAK WITH HIM OR THAT TRUMP WOULD DO
WITH HIM OR THAT TRUMP WOULD DO ANYTHING POLICY WISE TO ALLOW
ANYTHING POLICY WISE TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE HE KNOWS
THAT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE HE KNOWS THERE GOES HIS PRESIDENCY.
THERE GOES HIS PRESIDENCY. SO, I DO THINK THAT EVANGELICAL
SO, I DO THINK THAT EVANGELICAL LEADERS FOR THE MOST PART THINK
LEADERS FOR THE MOST PART THINK THAT TRUMP IS -- THIS IS WHAT
THAT TRUMP IS -- THIS IS WHAT HE'S DONE.
HE'S DONE. HE'S CHANGED THE WAY THAT
HE'S CHANGED THE WAY THAT EVANGELICALS, A LOT OF THEM AT
EVANGELICALS, A LOT OF THEM AT LEAST, LOOK AT THEIR LEADERS IN
LEAST, LOOK AT THEIR LEADERS IN TERMS OF THE QUALITIES THEY
TERMS OF THE QUALITIES THEY WANT.
WANT. FOR THE LONGEST TIME REPUBLICAN
FOR THE LONGEST TIME REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS WENT TO IOWA AND
POLITICIANS WENT TO IOWA AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, I GO TO
THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, I GO TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY.
CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY. I'VE BEEN MARRIED TO THE SAME
I'VE BEEN MARRIED TO THE SAME WOMAN FOR 30 YEARS.
WOMAN FOR 30 YEARS. I CAN CITE CHAPTER AND VERSE
I CAN CITE CHAPTER AND VERSE FROM THE BIBLE, ELECT ME, I'M
FROM THE BIBLE, ELECT ME, I'M ONE OF YOU.
ONE OF YOU. DONALD TRUMP PRETENDED TO BE
DONALD TRUMP PRETENDED TO BE NONE OF THAT.
NONE OF THAT. HE WON BECAUSE HE WAS A FIGHTER,
HE WON BECAUSE HE WAS A FIGHTER, BECAUSE THEY SAW HIM AS SOMEBODY
BECAUSE THEY SAW HIM AS SOMEBODY WHO WAS WILLING TO PUNCH AND
WHO WAS WILLING TO PUNCH AND HURT THE ENEMY AND THEY LIKED
HURT THE ENEMY AND THEY LIKED THAT.
THAT. AND I REALLY THINK IT'S BROKEN
AND I REALLY THINK IT'S BROKEN THE MODEL FOR THEM AND THEY'VE
THE MODEL FOR THEM AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY SATISFIED SO FAR
BEEN VERY SATISFIED SO FAR BECAUSE LOOK ALL THE POLICY
BECAUSE LOOK ALL THE POLICY GOALS AND VICTORIES THEY'VE
GOALS AND VICTORIES THEY'VE ACHIEVED.
ACHIEVED. >> YEP, YEP, CERTAINLY IT'S
>> YEP, YEP, CERTAINLY IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT SO MANY OF
REALLY SOMETHING THAT SO MANY OF THESE PEOPLE WERE SAYING IN THE
THESE PEOPLE WERE SAYING IN THE AGE OF BILL CLINTON, WE CAN'T
AGE OF BILL CLINTON, WE CAN'T HAVE LEADERS THAT SET BAD
HAVE LEADERS THAT SET BAD EXAMPLES FOR OUR CHILDREN.
EXAMPLES FOR OUR CHILDREN. APPARENTLY THAT'S NOT A CONCERN
APPARENTLY THAT'S NOT A CONCERN ANYMORE.
ANYMORE. SO LONG IS THE FEDERAL JUDICIARY
SO LONG IS THE FEDERAL JUDICIARY GOES YOUR WAY ON A COUPLE OF
GOES YOUR WAY ON A COUPLE OF CASES.
CASES. HUH?
HUH? PRETTY CRAZY WHAT SOME PEOPLE
PRETTY CRAZY WHAT SOME PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO TRADE IN FOR A
ARE WILLING TO TRADE IN FOR A FEW JUDGES.
FEW JUDGES. >>> STILL AHEAD ON -- I MEAN,
>>> STILL AHEAD ON -- I MEAN, AGAIN, I'M NOT BEING SELF
AGAIN, I'M NOT BEING SELF RIGHTEOUS, I'M JUST JUDGING THEM
RIGHTEOUS, I'M JUST JUDGING THEM BY THEIR OWN WORDS, JUDGING
BY THEIR OWN WORDS, JUDGING JERRY FALLWELL, JR., BY HIS OWN
JERRY FALLWELL, JR., BY HIS OWN PAST WORDS.
PAST WORDS. JUDGING FRANKLIN GRAHAM BY HIS
JUDGING FRANKLIN GRAHAM BY HIS PAST WORDS, JUDGING SO MANY OF
PAST WORDS, JUDGING SO MANY OF THESE EVANGELICAL LEADERS BY
THESE EVANGELICAL LEADERS BY THEIR OWN PAST WORDS.
THEIR OWN PAST WORDS. I DON'T BELIEVE YOU SHOULD BE
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU SHOULD BE SELF RIGHTEOUS.
SELF RIGHTEOUS. THEY CERTAINLY WERE, THOUGH,
THEY CERTAINLY WERE, THOUGH, WHEN BILL CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT
WHEN BILL CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT BECAUSE OF HIS MORAL
BECAUSE OF HIS MORAL INDISCRETIONS, BUT NOW SUDDENLY
INDISCRETIONS, BUT NOW SUDDENLY IT'S JUST NOT A CONCERN AT ALL.
IT'S JUST NOT A CONCERN AT ALL. YOU KNOW WHAT, I'VE ALWAYS TOLD
YOU KNOW WHAT, I'VE ALWAYS TOLD MY KIDS, I'VE ALWAYS TOLD
MY KIDS, I'VE ALWAYS TOLD POLITICIANS, THERE'S NO SUCH
POLITICIANS, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH.
THING AS A FREE LUNCH. YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO PAY FOR IT IN
YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO PAY FOR IT IN THE END.
THE END. THESE EVANGELICAL LEADERS I
THESE EVANGELICAL LEADERS I THINK THEY'RE NO EXCEPTION TO
THINK THEY'RE NO EXCEPTION TO THAT RULE.
THAT RULE. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THEIR
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THEIR CHURCHES FOUR, FIVE, SIX YEARS
CHURCHES FOUR, FIVE, SIX YEARS FROM NOW ARE GOING TO LOOK AT
FROM NOW ARE GOING TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE MIDDLE
SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE MIDDLE OF TRUMP AND ASK THEM SERIOUS
OF TRUMP AND ASK THEM SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THEY WERE
QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THEY WERE AND WHY THEY SOLD OUT FOR
AND WHY THEY SOLD OUT FOR POLITICAL POWER.
POLITICAL POWER. THE WORDS PHARISEES, SAJSYS COME
THE WORDS PHARISEES, SAJSYS COME TO MIND.
TO MIND. ENOUGH BAB THIS TALK THIS
ENOUGH BAB THIS TALK THIS MORNING.
MORNING. >>> STILL AHEAD ON "MORNING
>>> STILL AHEAD ON "MORNING JOE," PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID HE'S
JOE," PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID HE'S SMILING AT SENATORS WHO ARE
SMILING AT SENATORS WHO ARE PUSHING BACK AT THE WHITE HOUSE
PUSHING BACK AT THE WHITE HOUSE TRADE POLICIES.
TRADE POLICIES. WE'LL ASK SENATOR CHRIS MURPHY
WE'LL ASK SENATOR CHRIS MURPHY IF THE JOKE IS ON THE AMERICAN
IF THE JOKE IS ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. >>> PLUS, THE PRESIDENT REVIVES
>>> PLUS, THE PRESIDENT REVIVES THE IDEA OF FIRING JEFF SESSION.
THE IDEA OF FIRING JEFF SESSION. "THE WASHINGTON POST" CAROL
"THE WASHINGTON POST" CAROL LEONNIG JOINS US WITH HER LATEST
LEONNIG JOINS US WITH HER LATEST REPORTING ON THAT AND WHETHER
REPORTING ON THAT AND WHETHER SESSIONS IS REALLY IN DANGER OF
SESSIONS IS REALLY IN DANGER OF LOSING HIS JOB.
LOSING HIS JOB. YOU'RE WATCHING "MORNING JOE."
YOU'RE WATCHING "MORNING JOE." WE SHALL RETURN.
WE SHALL RETURN.
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