
>>> SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO WALK. condo insurance.
>>> SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO WALK. AND THIS WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE
AND THIS WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE TIMES.
TIMES.
I COULD HAVE 100% SIGNED
I COULD HAVE 100% SIGNED
SOMETHING TODAY. WE ACTUALLY HAD PAPERS READY TO
WE ACTUALLY HAD PAPERS READY TO BE SIGNED.
BE SIGNED.
IT JUST WASNT APPROPRIATE. I WANT TO DO IT RIGHT.ATE.
I WANT TO DO IT RIGHT. I WOULD MUCH RATHER DO IT RIGHT
I WOULD MUCH RATHER DO IT RIGHT THAN DO IT FAST.
THAN DO IT FAST. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP IS ON HIS WAY
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP IS ON HIS WAY BACK FROM HANOI WITHOUT A DEAL
BACK FROM HANOI WITHOUT A DEAL AFTER TALKS WITH NORTH KOREAS
AFTER TALKS WITH NORTH KOREAS LEADER KIM JONG-UN ABRUPTLY
LEADER KIM JONG-UN ABRUPTLY BROKE DOWN.
BROKE DOWN. THE TWO LEADERS FAILING TO AGREE
THE TWO LEADERS FAILING TO AGREE ON ANY STEPS TOWARDS
ON ANY STEPS TOWARDS DENUCLEARIZATION OF THE NORTH.
DENUCLEARIZATION OF THE NORTH. THE PRESIDENT AND KIM SKIPPING A
THE PRESIDENT AND KIM SKIPPING A PLANNED LUNCH MEETING AND A
PLANNED LUNCH MEETING AND A JOINT STATEMENT THAT HAD BEEN
JOINT STATEMENT THAT HAD BEEN SCHEDULED.
SCHEDULED.
JOINING ME NOW, AMBASSADOR NICK
JOINING ME NOW, AMBASSADOR NICK
BURNS, FORMER UNDERSECRETARY OF STATE FOR POLITICAL AFFAIRS AND
STATE FOR POLITICAL AFFAIRS AND SENIOR NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST
SENIOR NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST MICHAEL LEITER.
MICHAEL LEITER.
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THATS
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THATS
TWO MEN COULD HAVE BEEN TALKING
TWO MEN COULD HAVE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT ALL THOSE HOURS, YET THEY CUT SHORT THEIR MEETING.ET THEY
CUT SHORT THEIR MEETING. YOU WOULD THINK, NICK BURNS,
YOU WOULD THINK, NICK BURNS, THEY COULD HAVE FOUND THINGS TO
THEY COULD HAVE FOUND THINGS TO FILL OUT THE SCHEDULE.
FILL OUT THE SCHEDULE.
HOW ABOUT BRINGING UP HUMAN RIGHTS?UT BRINGING UP HUMAN
RIGHTS?
HOW ABOUT NOT ACCEPTING KIM JONG-UNS DENIAL THAT HE KNEW
JONG-UNS DENIAL THAT HE KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT OTTO WARMBIERS
ANYTHING ABOUT OTTO WARMBIERS DEATH?
DEATH?
>> IT WAS STRIKING, ANDREA, THIS MEETING ENDED SO ABRUPTLYA, THIS
MEETING ENDED SO ABRUPTLY WITHOUT LUNCH EVEN BEING SERVED.
WITHOUT LUNCH EVEN BEING SERVED.
YOURE RIGHT, THERE WAS A LOT TO
YOURE RIGHT, THERE WAS A LOT TO
TALK ABOUT.
TALK ABOUT.
KIM HAS NOT DISMANTLED ANY PART OF HIS NUCLEAR APPARATUS, HESRT
OF HIS NUCLEAR APPARATUS, HES NOT SERIOUS, OBVIOUSLY, ABOUT
NOT SERIOUS, OBVIOUSLY, ABOUT
THESE TALKS.
THESE TALKS.
THE DEMAND THAT WE LIFT ALL SANCTIONS WAS A VERY BAD DEAL.
SANCTIONS WAS A VERY BAD DEAL. THE PRESIDENT WAS RIGHT TO WALK
THE PRESIDENT WAS RIGHT TO WALK AWAY FROM IT.
AWAY FROM IT. BUT I THINK THE PRESIDENT REALLY
BUT I THINK THE PRESIDENT REALLY
MISSTEPPED ON THE QUESTION OF OTTO WARMBIER, THE AMERICANOF
OTTO WARMBIER, THE AMERICAN STUDENT WHO WAS BRUTALIZED AND
STUDENT WHO WAS BRUTALIZED AND MURDERED BY THE NORTH KOREAN
MURDERED BY THE NORTH KOREAN
REGIME.
REGIME.
FOR THE PRESIDENT TO ESSENTIALLY LET KIM JONG-UN OFF THE HOOKALLY
LET KIM JONG-UN OFF THE HOOK WHEN HES AN AUTHORITARIAN
WHEN HES AN AUTHORITARIAN
DICTATOR WHO RUNS A MAFIOSO STATE, HES RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT
STATE, HES RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT PRESIDENT.
HAPPENS IN THAT PRESIDENT.
THE PRESIDENT DIDNT STAND UP FOR OTTO WARMBIER AND HIS UP
FOR OTTO WARMBIER AND HIS FAMILY.
FAMILY.
IT WAS A LOW POINT FOR HIM. THE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO RETHINK
THE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO RETHINK HIS STRATEGY.
HIS STRATEGY.
HE NEEDS TO GET CHINA, SOUTH KOREA, TOGETHER ON SANCTIONS.
KOREA, TOGETHER ON SANCTIONS. KIM IS NOW CREDIBLE, HES
KIM IS NOW CREDIBLE, HES
EMERGED FROM HIS ISOLATION.
EMERGED FROM HIS ISOLATION.
IF YOURE GRADING THIS ON POINTS, KIM IS THE WINNER OF
POINTS, KIM IS THE WINNER OF THESE TWO SUMMITS.
THESE TWO SUMMITS. >> THE FACT IS THAT THE FIRST
>> THE FACT IS THAT THE FIRST SUMMIT WAS WIDELY CRITICIZED
SUMMIT WAS WIDELY CRITICIZED BECAUSE THEY DIDNT GET ANYTHING
BECAUSE THEY DIDNT GET ANYTHING
OUT OF IT AND THEY CLAIM THEY
OUT OF IT AND THEY CLAIM THEY
DID.
DID.
THE PRESIDENT CLAIMING, MICHAEL, INACCURATELY, THAT KIM HADCHAEL,
INACCURATELY, THAT KIM HAD AGREED TO DENUCLEARIZE.
AGREED TO DENUCLEARIZE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SORT OF
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SORT OF
GLOSSING OVER THE FACT THAT POMPEO GOES, DOESNT GET AAT
POMPEO GOES, DOESNT GET A MEETING, GETS STIFFED, DOESNT
MEETING, GETS STIFFED, DOESNT GET TO MEET WITH KIM JONG-UN,
GET TO MEET WITH KIM JONG-UN,
THAT THEY NEVER GET THE
THAT THEY NEVER GET THE
INVENTORY OF THEIR ARSENAL, THEY
INVENTORY OF THEIR ARSENAL, THEY
DONT HAVE THE BASIS TO BEGIN NEGOTIATING DISMANTLING THEN
NEGOTIATING DISMANTLING THE NUKES.
NUKES.
>> THERES NO DOUBT AT ALL THAT THE PRESIDENT SET EXTREMELY HIGH
THE PRESIDENT SET EXTREMELY HIGH EXPECTATIONS FROM BEFORE THE
EXPECTATIONS FROM BEFORE THE FIRST SUMMIT THROUGH THIS ONE
FIRST SUMMIT THROUGH THIS ONE
AND HE DIDNT REMOTELY MEET
AND HE DIDNT REMOTELY MEET
THEM.
THEM.
ALL THAT SAID, ANDREA, I HAVE A LITTLE MORE SAMEYMPATHY THAN NIC
LITTLE MORE SAMEYMPATHY THAN NIC DOES.
DOES.
I AGREE COMPLETELY THAT HUMAN RIGHTS HAVENT BEEN BROUGHT UP,
RIGHTS HAVENT BEEN BROUGHT UP, BECAUSE ITS A CENTRAL PROBLEM
BECAUSE ITS A CENTRAL PROBLEM
WITH THE KOREAN REGIME.
WITH THE KOREAN REGIME.
ALL THAT BEING SAID, TO THE
ALL THAT BEING SAID, TO THE
EXTENT THAT WE ARE AT LEAST NOW TALKING, THATS A GOOD THING.NOW
TALKING, THATS A GOOD THING.
AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WHERE WE
AND WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WHERE WE
WERE AT THE END OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, AND FRANKLY EVEN
ADMINISTRATION, AND FRANKLY EVEN WORSE, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
WORSE, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
AND IF NOTHING ELSE, THIS YEAR OR SO OF ENGAGEMENT SEEMS TOAR
OR SO OF ENGAGEMENT SEEMS TO HAVE CALMED DOWN OUR PRESIDENT
HAVE CALMED DOWN OUR PRESIDENT AND GOTTEN OUR PRESIDENT,
AND GOTTEN OUR PRESIDENT,
PRESIDENT TRUMP, TO LOOK AT KOREA AS A REAL PROBLEM WORTH
KOREA AS A REAL PROBLEM WORTH ENGAGEMENT AND NOT JUST REALLY
ENGAGEMENT AND NOT JUST REALLY BLATH
BLATH
BLATHERING ON WITH THREATS, A SILVER LINING TO WHAT WASS, A
SILVER LINING TO WHAT WAS CLEARLY NOT A SUCCESSFUL SUMMIT.
CLEARLY NOT A SUCCESSFUL SUMMIT. >> IT DOES STRIKE ME, TO BOTH OF
>> IT DOES STRIKE ME, TO BOTH OF
YOU, PRESIDENT TRUMP RELIES SO MUCH ON HIS POWER OF MAKING SO
MUCH ON HIS POWER OF MAKING DEALS, THE ART OF PERSONALITY,
DEALS, THE ART OF PERSONALITY,
THE PEN PAL SUMMIT, IF YOU WILL,
THE PEN PAL SUMMIT, IF YOU WILL,
AND IT REMINDED ME, ITS NOT A
AND IT REMINDED ME, ITS NOT A
PERFECT ANALOGY, NICK, OF WHAT
PERFECT ANALOGY, NICK, OF WHAT
WE WENT THROUGH WITH REYKJAVIK,
WE WENT THROUGH WITH REYKJAVIK,
AFTER GENEVA IN 1985, EVERYONE
AFTER GENEVA IN 1985, EVERYONE
WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW REAGAN AND
WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW REAGAN AND
GORBACHEV COULD WORK WITH EACH
GORBACHEV COULD WORK WITH EACH
OTHER AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU
OTHER AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU
GET INTO REYKJAVIK AND A DEMAND IS MADE, AND REAGANAND A DEMAND
IS MADE, AND REAGAN APPROPRIATELY WALKED AWAY FROM
APPROPRIATELY WALKED AWAY FROM IT, AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE
IT, AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE
EXACTLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
EXACTLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
THIS HAD THAT KIND OF FEEL.
THIS HAD THAT KIND OF FEEL.
YOU WERE KIND OF GLAD THAT MIKE
YOU WERE KIND OF GLAD THAT MIKE
POMPEO WAS THERE, THE GUARDIANS
POMPEO WAS THERE, THE GUARDIANS
WERE THERE TO SAY, YOU CANT
WERE THERE TO SAY, YOU CANT
RELY ON THIS GUY AND KEEP TALKING ABOUT HIM AS, QUOTE,
TALKING ABOUT HIM AS, QUOTE, YOUR FRIEND.
YOUR FRIEND. NICK, AM I --
NICK, AM I --
>> ANDREA, I VERY MUCH AGREE
>> ANDREA, I VERY MUCH AGREE
WITH MICHAEL.
WITH MICHAEL.
I THINK THAT PRESIDENT TRUMPS
I THINK THAT PRESIDENT TRUMPS
BEEN RIGHT TO TRY DIPLOMACY WITH KIM JONG-UN.O TRY DIPLOMACY WITH
KIM JONG-UN.
I ALSO BELIEVE HES MADE THE CORRECT CALCULATION, WE NEED TO
CORRECT CALCULATION, WE NEED TO ENGAGE THIS REGIME.
ENGAGE THIS REGIME.
CLEARLY WANT BUDDY PHILOSOPHY, I
CLEARLY WANT BUDDY PHILOSOPHY, I
CAN BECOME KIM JONG-UNS BEST
CAN BECOME KIM JONG-UNS BEST
FRIEND, HE DESCRIBES THE LOVE
FRIEND, HE DESCRIBES THE LOVE
LETTERS THEY WRITE TO EACH
LETTERS THEY WRITE TO EACH
OTHER, THAT HASNT WORKED.
OTHER, THAT HASNT WORKED.
KIM HAS NOT BEEN MOVED BY THAT AT ALL. NOT BEEN MOVED BY THAT
AT ALL.
SO I THINK A RETURN TO MORE TRADITIONAL DIPLOMACY. MORE
TRADITIONAL DIPLOMACY. THE PRESIDENT HAS A VERY
THE PRESIDENT HAS A VERY
EFFECTIVE NEGOTIATOR IN STEVE
EFFECTIVE NEGOTIATOR IN STEVE
BIEGUN.
BIEGUN.
AND SECRETARY POMPEO IS A VERY
AND SECRETARY POMPEO IS A VERY
EFFECTIVE PERSON.
EFFECTIVE PERSON.
LET THEM LEAD.
LET THEM LEAD.
YOU NEED TO GET THE JAPANESE, CHINESE, AND SOUTH KOREANS TO
CHINESE, AND SOUTH KOREANS TO YOUR SIDE.
YOUR SIDE.
YOU PROBABLY NEED TO TURN BACK ON THE MILITARY EXERCISES.BACK
ON THE MILITARY EXERCISES. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT.
>> THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE WITH SOUTH KOREA.AVE TO HAVE WITH
SOUTH KOREA.
AND YOU NEED TO SHOW SOME
AND YOU NEED TO SHOW SOME
LEVERAGE AND TOUGHNESS.
LEVERAGE AND TOUGHNESS.
THAT WILL PROBABLY WORK BETTER
THAT WILL PROBABLY WORK BETTER
FOR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IN
FOR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IN
THE SHORT TERM.
THE SHORT TERM.
SOMETIMES THE CHARM OFFENSIVE
SOMETIMES THE CHARM OFFENSIVE
CAN WORK.
CAN WORK.
IT CLEARLY HAS NOT IN THIS CASE.
IT CLEARLY HAS NOT IN THIS CASE.
>> MICHAEL LEITER, THE SOUTH KOREANS WERE TOTALLY BLINDSIDED
KOREANS WERE TOTALLY BLINDSIDED BY THE PRESIDENT SEEMINGLY
BY THE PRESIDENT SEEMINGLY
SHUTTING DOWN THOSE MILITARY EXERCISES.OWN THOSE MILITARY
EXERCISES.
HE DID THAT, HE FREELANCED THAT IN SINGAPORE.HE FREELANCED THAT
IN SINGAPORE.
AND GENERAL MATTIS, DEFENSE
AND GENERAL MATTIS, DEFENSE
SECRETARY, PUSHED BACK AND SAID,
SECRETARY, PUSHED BACK AND SAID,
ITS ONLY A SUSPENSION.
ITS ONLY A SUSPENSION.
BUT HE REALLY WAS -- AND HE
BUT HE REALLY WAS -- AND HE
SEEMED NOT TO BE AWARE THAT TWO
SEEMED NOT TO BE AWARE THAT TWO
WEEKS AGO, THE U.S. AND SOUTH KOREA AGREED THAT THEY WOULD PAY
KOREA AGREED THAT THEY WOULD PAY MORE FOR THESE EXERCISES.
MORE FOR THESE EXERCISES.
>> I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION,SAY
THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION, PRESIDENT TRUMP SPECIFICALLY,
PRESIDENT TRUMP SPECIFICALLY, ARE NEITHER FOCUSED ON OUR
ARE NEITHER FOCUSED ON OUR
ALLIES NOR FOCUSED ON
ALLIES NOR FOCUSED ON
PREDICTABILITY.
PREDICTABILITY.
AND BOTH OF THOSE THINGS CAUSE MANY PROBLEMS IN MANY AREAS, TO
MANY PROBLEMS IN MANY AREAS, TO INCLUDE NORTH KOREA.
INCLUDE NORTH KOREA.
CERTAINLY THE CESSATION OF A PAUSE IN THE EXERCISES, THEA
PAUSE IN THE EXERCISES, THE PRESIDENTS EXPECTATIONS THAT HE
PRESIDENTS EXPECTATIONS THAT HE SET WITH SOUTH KOREA ARE NOW
SET WITH SOUTH KOREA ARE NOW
GOING TO CAUSE THE PRESIDENT OF SOUTH KOREA SOME PROBLEMS.NT OF
SOUTH KOREA SOME PROBLEMS. SO HE REALLY DOES, I THINK NICK
SO HE REALLY DOES, I THINK NICK
IS EXACTLY RIGHT, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A MULTILATERAL
ALWAYS BEEN A MULTILATERAL ISSUE.
ISSUE.
THIS IS THE KOREAN PENINSULA.
THIS IS THE KOREAN PENINSULA.
THIS IS VERY CLOSE TO JAPAN.
THIS IS VERY CLOSE TO JAPAN.
CHINA IS CENTRAL TO THIS. WE HAVE TO WORK THIS IN A
WE HAVE TO WORK THIS IN A MULTILATERAL WAY.
MULTILATERAL WAY. AND THATS NOT SOMETHING THAT
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