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>>> MR. TRUMP IS A CHEAT.
>>> MR. TRUMP IS A CHEAT. IT WAS MY EXPERIENCE MR. TRUMP
IT WAS MY EXPERIENCE MR. TRUMP INFLATED HIS TOTAL ASSETS WHEN
INFLATED HIS TOTAL ASSETS WHEN IT SERVED HIS PURPOSES LIKE
IT SERVED HIS PURPOSES LIKE BEING LISTED AS THE WEALTHIEST
BEING LISTED AS THE WEALTHIEST IN FORBES AND DEFLATED ASSETS TO
IN FORBES AND DEFLATED ASSETS TO REDUCE REAL ESTATE TAXES.
REDUCE REAL ESTATE TAXES. >> "THE WASHINGTON POST"
>> "THE WASHINGTON POST" OBTAINED EVIDENCE THAT APPEARS
OBTAINED EVIDENCE THAT APPEARS TO BACKUP ALLEGATIONS FROM THE
TO BACKUP ALLEGATIONS FROM THE PRESIDENT'S FORMER FRIEND AND
PRESIDENT'S FORMER FRIEND AND ATTORNEY, A NUMBER OF PRESIDENT
ATTORNEY, A NUMBER OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FINANCIAL STATEMENTS
TRUMP'S FINANCIAL STATEMENTS REVEALING AN INFLATED PICTURE OF
REVEALING AN INFLATED PICTURE OF TRUMP'S WEALTH.
TRUMP'S WEALTH. DAVID REPORTS TRUMP'S STATEMENTS
DAVID REPORTS TRUMP'S STATEMENTS OF FINANCIAL CONDITION SOME
OF FINANCIAL CONDITION SOME APPARENTLY SENT TO LENDERS TO
APPARENTLY SENT TO LENDERS TO MAKE A GOOD IMPRESSION WERE
MAKE A GOOD IMPRESSION WERE OFTEN INCORRECT.
OFTEN INCORRECT. QUOTE, THESE DOCUMENTS SOMETIMES
QUOTE, THESE DOCUMENTS SOMETIMES RAN UP TO 20 PAGES.
RAN UP TO 20 PAGES. THEY WERE FULL OF NUMBERS LAYING
THEY WERE FULL OF NUMBERS LAYING OUT TRUMP'S PROPERTIES, DEBTS
OUT TRUMP'S PROPERTIES, DEBTS AND MULTI BILLION-DOLLAR NET
AND MULTI BILLION-DOLLAR NET WORTH, BUT FOR SOMEONE TRYING TO
WORTH, BUT FOR SOMEONE TRYING TO GET A TRUE PICTURE OF TRUMP'S
GET A TRUE PICTURE OF TRUMP'S NET WORTH, THE DOCUMENTS WERE
NET WORTH, THE DOCUMENTS WERE DEEPLY FLAWED.
DEEPLY FLAWED. SOME SIMPLY OMITTED PROPERTIES
SOME SIMPLY OMITTED PROPERTIES THAT CARRIED BIG DEBTS.
THAT CARRIED BIG DEBTS. SOME ASSETS WERE OVER VALUED.
SOME ASSETS WERE OVER VALUED. AND SOME KEY NUMBERS WERE WRONG.
AND SOME KEY NUMBERS WERE WRONG. NOW THE POST POINTS OUT THAT
NOW THE POST POINTS OUT THAT ACCORDING TO TRUMP'S DOCUMENTS,
ACCORDING TO TRUMP'S DOCUMENTS, TEN STORIES WERE ADDED TO TRUMP
TEN STORIES WERE ADDED TO TRUMP TOWER IN NEW YORK CITY.
TOWER IN NEW YORK CITY. IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITES.
IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITES. THE DOCUMENTS SAID THE BUILDING
THE DOCUMENTS SAID THE BUILDING HAD 68 STORIES, IT'S ACTUALLY
HAD 68 STORIES, IT'S ACTUALLY 58.
58. IT'S RIGHT THERE ON FIFTH
IT'S RIGHT THERE ON FIFTH AVENUE.
AVENUE. YOU CAN LOOK UP AND COUNT THEM.
YOU CAN LOOK UP AND COUNT THEM. 800 ACRES WERE ADDED TO TRUMP'S
800 ACRES WERE ADDED TO TRUMP'S WINERY IN VIRGINIA.
WINERY IN VIRGINIA. TRUMP'S STATEMENT SAID THE
TRUMP'S STATEMENT SAID THE PROPERTY SIZE WAS 2,000 ACRES.
PROPERTY SIZE WAS 2,000 ACRES. THE POST REPORTS IT'S ACTUALLY
THE POST REPORTS IT'S ACTUALLY 1200 AND 24 READY TO SELL LOTS
1200 AND 24 READY TO SELL LOTS WERE ADDED TO HIS GOLF COURSE IN
WERE ADDED TO HIS GOLF COURSE IN CALIFORNIA.
CALIFORNIA. TRUMP CLAIMED THERE WERE 55
TRUMP CLAIMED THERE WERE 55 LOTS.
LOTS. THERE WERE ONLY 31.
THERE WERE ONLY 31. THE POST SAYS INVESTIGATORS ON
THE POST SAYS INVESTIGATORS ON THE HILL AND NEW YORK ARE
THE HILL AND NEW YORK ARE EXAMINING ALL THESE DOCUMENTS TO
EXAMINING ALL THESE DOCUMENTS TO SEE IF THEY AMOUNT TO ACTUAL
SEE IF THEY AMOUNT TO ACTUAL FRAUD.
FRAUD. WITH US FOR MORE TONIGHT, TWO OF
WITH US FOR MORE TONIGHT, TWO OF OUR RETURNING VETERANS, TIM
OUR RETURNING VETERANS, TIM O'BRYAN, EXECUTIVE EDITOR OF
O'BRYAN, EXECUTIVE EDITOR OF "BLOOMBERG OPINION" AND THE
"BLOOMBERG OPINION" AND THE AUTHOR OF TRUMP NATION, THE ART
AUTHOR OF TRUMP NATION, THE ART OF BEING THE DONALD A RICK
OF BEING THE DONALD A RICK WILSON, VETERAN REPUBLICAN
WILSON, VETERAN REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST AND THE AUTHOR OF
STRATEGIST AND THE AUTHOR OF EVERYTHING TRUMP TOUCHES DIES.
EVERYTHING TRUMP TOUCHES DIES. RECENTLY RELEASED WITH NEW
RECENTLY RELEASED WITH NEW MATERIAL AND A FRESH DEPTH COUNT
MATERIAL AND A FRESH DEPTH COUNT IN PAPER BACK.
IN PAPER BACK. GENTLEMEN, WELCOME TO YOU BOTH.
GENTLEMEN, WELCOME TO YOU BOTH. TIM, YOU WERE IN THE "POST"
TIM, YOU WERE IN THE "POST" PIECE TODAY NOT BY NAME.
PIECE TODAY NOT BY NAME. YOU WERE SUED BY DONALD TRUMP
YOU WERE SUED BY DONALD TRUMP FOR LOWBALLING HIS FINANCES SO
FOR LOWBALLING HIS FINANCES SO THIS MUST HAVE BROUGHT A CERTAIN
THIS MUST HAVE BROUGHT A CERTAIN MEASURE OF PTSD TO YOU TODAY.
MEASURE OF PTSD TO YOU TODAY. >> HE CLAIMED I LOWBALLED HIS
>> HE CLAIMED I LOWBALLED HIS FINANCES.
FINANCES. I GOT HIS TAX RETURNS AND BANK
I GOT HIS TAX RETURNS AND BANK RECORDS AND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
RECORDS AND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LITIGATION, HE TURNED OVER ONE
LITIGATION, HE TURNED OVER ONE OF THESE STATEMENTS.
OF THESE STATEMENTS. HE CLAIMED THEY HAD GIVEN THAT
HE CLAIMED THEY HAD GIVEN THAT TO ME WHILE REPORTING WHICH THEY
TO ME WHILE REPORTING WHICH THEY HADN'T AND DISCOVERED THE DATE
HADN'T AND DISCOVERED THE DATE DIDN'T CORRESPOND IN THE
DIDN'T CORRESPOND IN THE DOCUMENTED WITH THE TIME I WAS
DOCUMENTED WITH THE TIME I WAS REPORTING.
REPORTING. THE DOCUMENT HIS OWN ACCOUNTANT
THE DOCUMENT HIS OWN ACCOUNTANT SAID THEY COULDN'T PASS JUDGMENT
SAID THEY COULDN'T PASS JUDGMENT ON THE DOCUMENT BECAUSE IT
ON THE DOCUMENT BECAUSE IT WASN'T PREPARED WITH GENERALLY
WASN'T PREPARED WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRACTICES.
ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRACTICES. IT WAS FULL OF INFLATION.
IT WAS FULL OF INFLATION. WE DEPOSED TRUMP FOR 16 HOURS
WE DEPOSED TRUMP FOR 16 HOURS OVER TWO DAYS.
OVER TWO DAYS. HE LEAD ABOUT 30 TIMES ABOUT
HE LEAD ABOUT 30 TIMES ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM HOW MUCH HE GOT
EVERYTHING FROM HOW MUCH HE GOT FROM CONDO SALES, HOW MUCH THE
FROM CONDO SALES, HOW MUCH THE VALUE OF HIS PROPERTIES WORTH
VALUE OF HIS PROPERTIES WORTH DOWN THE LINE, FACT AFTER FACT
DOWN THE LINE, FACT AFTER FACT AFTER FACT AND HE'S BEEN DOING
AFTER FACT AND HE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR 45 YEARS.
THIS FOR 45 YEARS. TRUMP HAS BEEN AT THIS GAME
TRUMP HAS BEEN AT THIS GAME SINCE THE MID 1970s.
SINCE THE MID 1970s. AT ONE POINT DURING MY
AT ONE POINT DURING MY REPORTING, I HAD BEEN AFTER THEM
REPORTING, I HAD BEEN AFTER THEM QUITE A BIT TO OFFER A COUNTER
QUITE A BIT TO OFFER A COUNTER ARGUMENT TO WHAT MY SOURCES WERE
ARGUMENT TO WHAT MY SOURCES WERE TELLING ME HIS REAL NET WORTH
TELLING ME HIS REAL NET WORTH WAS AT THE TIME.
WAS AT THE TIME. HE SAID IT WAS 5 MILLION TO $6
HE SAID IT WAS 5 MILLION TO $6 MILLION.
MILLION. MY SOURCES THOUGHT IT WAS MORE
MY SOURCES THOUGHT IT WAS MORE LIKE 250 MILLION.
LIKE 250 MILLION. I GO TO TRUMP TOWER AND SIT DOWN
I GO TO TRUMP TOWER AND SIT DOWN WITH THEM.
WITH THEM. THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF DOCUMENTS
THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF DOCUMENTS ON A TABLE.
ON A TABLE. NONE OF THEM HELP ESTABLISH HIS
NONE OF THEM HELP ESTABLISH HIS NETWORK BUT HIS ACCOUNTANT IS
NETWORK BUT HIS ACCOUNTANT IS SITTING THERE WITH A YELLOW
SITTING THERE WITH A YELLOW LEGAL PAD AND BEGINS TELLING YOU
LEGAL PAD AND BEGINS TELLING YOU WHAT THE VALUE OF EVERYTHING WAS
WHAT THE VALUE OF EVERYTHING WAS ON HIS WAY TO GETTING TO 6
ON HIS WAY TO GETTING TO 6 BILLION AND WE GET TO THE BOTTOM
BILLION AND WE GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE LINE AND THE TOTAL IS
OF THE LINE AND THE TOTAL IS ONLY 5 BILLION.
ONLY 5 BILLION. I ADD ALAN, THIS DOESN'T ADD TO
I ADD ALAN, THIS DOESN'T ADD TO 6 MILLION.
6 MILLION. HE SAID I'LL GO TO MY OFFICE AND
HE SAID I'LL GO TO MY OFFICE AND FIND THE OTHER BILLION.
FIND THE OTHER BILLION. >> WOW, ONE OF THE BEST QUOTES
>> WOW, ONE OF THE BEST QUOTES IN MODERN MEDIA HAS TO RANK
IN MODERN MEDIA HAS TO RANK CLOSE TO THAT.
CLOSE TO THAT. RICK, I WANT TO PLAY YOU DAVID
RICK, I WANT TO PLAY YOU DAVID EARLIER AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
EARLIER AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. >> THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION GOT
>> THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION GOT A LOT OF INK AND PRESS BUT ONLY
A LOT OF INK AND PRESS BUT ONLY ONE OF MANY.
ONE OF MANY. RIGHT NOW TRUMP'S BUSINESS,
RIGHT NOW TRUMP'S BUSINESS, CHARITY, HIS INAUGURAL L
CHARITY, HIS INAUGURAL L COMMITTEE, TRANSITION, EVERY
COMMITTEE, TRANSITION, EVERY ORGANIZATION HE'S LED THROUGH
ORGANIZATION HE'S LED THROUGH HIS ADULT LIFE IS UNDER
HIS ADULT LIFE IS UNDER INVESTIGATION ALL AT THE SAME
INVESTIGATION ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
TIME. THE END OF THE MUELLER
THE END OF THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION TAKES AWAY ONE
INVESTIGATION TAKES AWAY ONE LITTLE PIECE OF THAT BUT A LOT
LITTLE PIECE OF THAT BUT A LOT MORE IS GOING ON.
MORE IS GOING ON. >> RICK, A DUAL QUESTION FOR
>> RICK, A DUAL QUESTION FOR YOU.
YOU. DO YOU HAVE FAITH THAT THOSE
DO YOU HAVE FAITH THAT THOSE INVESTIGATIONS THAT DAVID IS
INVESTIGATIONS THAT DAVID IS TALKING ABOUT WILL ALL HAVE LEGS
TALKING ABOUT WILL ALL HAVE LEGS AND REACH AND ACTUAL RESULTS AND
AND REACH AND ACTUAL RESULTS AND WHAT WILL THE BASE, THE FOLKS
WHAT WILL THE BASE, THE FOLKS WHO SHOWED UP IN MICHIGAN
WHO SHOWED UP IN MICHIGAN TONIGHT, WHAT WILL THEY MAKE OF
TONIGHT, WHAT WILL THEY MAKE OF IT?
IT? WILL IT CHANGE A WHIT?
WILL IT CHANGE A WHIT? >> IT -- FIRST OFF, BRIAN, I
>> IT -- FIRST OFF, BRIAN, I DON'T THINK IT WILL CHANGE THE
DON'T THINK IT WILL CHANGE THE BASE AT ALL.
BASE AT ALL. WE SAW IN 2015 AND '16 ASKING
WE SAW IN 2015 AND '16 ASKING AMERICAN VOTERS, YOU KNOW,
AMERICAN VOTERS, YOU KNOW, TELLING THEM THE TRUTH ABOUT
TELLING THEM THE TRUTH ABOUT DONALD TRUMP.
DONALD TRUMP. THE CHARACTER YOU SEE ON "THE
THE CHARACTER YOU SEE ON "THE APPRENTICE" ISN'T THE REAL
APPRENTICE" ISN'T THE REAL PERSON THEY BELIEVED AFTER 15
PERSON THEY BELIEVED AFTER 15 YEARS OF TELEVISION THAT WAS THE
YEARS OF TELEVISION THAT WAS THE REAL DONALD TRUMP.
REAL DONALD TRUMP. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IN NEW
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IN NEW YORK REAL ESTATE CIRCLES HE'S
YORK REAL ESTATE CIRCLES HE'S LRG
LRG LARGELY CONSIDERED A JOKE AND A
LARGELY CONSIDERED A JOKE AND A SERIAL BANKRUPT ARTIST AND A GUY
SERIAL BANKRUPT ARTIST AND A GUY BEEN HIDING TAXES FOR A LONG
BEEN HIDING TAXES FOR A LONG TIME NOT BECAUSE ANY SORT OF
TIME NOT BECAUSE ANY SORT OF AUDIT PROBLEMS BUT BECAUSE HE
AUDIT PROBLEMS BUT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT US TO SEE HE'S NOT
DOESN'T WANT US TO SEE HE'S NOT WORTH, YOU KNOW, $50 BILLION OR
WORTH, YOU KNOW, $50 BILLION OR $20 BILLION OR WHATEVER WILD
$20 BILLION OR WHATEVER WILD FIGURE HE PULLS OUT OF THE
FIGURE HE PULLS OUT OF THE BACKSIDE AT ANY GIVEN RANDOM
BACKSIDE AT ANY GIVEN RANDOM MOMENT.
MOMENT. SO THE SENSITIVITY OF THESE
SO THE SENSITIVITY OF THESE CASES PARTICULARLY IN NEW YORK
CASES PARTICULARLY IN NEW YORK STATE, THEY WILL PEEL BACK A LOT
STATE, THEY WILL PEEL BACK A LOT OF LAYERS.
OF LAYERS. IT WILL SHOW PEOPLE TRUMP IS
IT WILL SHOW PEOPLE TRUMP IS LARGELY A GUY AS MICHAEL COHEN
LARGELY A GUY AS MICHAEL COHEN FLAT OUT SAID A FRAUD.
FLAT OUT SAID A FRAUD. COHEN WOULD KNOW.
COHEN WOULD KNOW. HE'S BEEN IN THE CAMP A LONG
HE'S BEEN IN THE CAMP A LONG TIME AND WATCHED THIS STUFF UP
TIME AND WATCHED THIS STUFF UP CLOSE AND WHETHER IT RISES TO
CLOSE AND WHETHER IT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF BANK FRAUD OR
THE LEVEL OF BANK FRAUD OR MORTGAGE FRAUD IS UP TO THE NEW
MORTGAGE FRAUD IS UP TO THE NEW YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE
YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK AND FOLKS THAT ARE TAKING A LOOK
AND FOLKS THAT ARE TAKING A LOOK AT THIS STUFF BUT I THINK THAT
AT THIS STUFF BUT I THINK THAT THE REAL THING THAT CONCERNS
THE REAL THING THAT CONCERNS DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO WORRY
DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO WORRY HIM.
HIM. DONALD TRUMP WOULD HAVE BEEN
DONALD TRUMP WOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT BEING A TRAITOR, CAUGHT
CAUGHT BEING A TRAITOR, CAUGHT COMMITTING TREASON THAN FOR
COMMITTING TREASON THAN FOR PEOPLE TO NOT KNOW HOW RICH HE
PEOPLE TO NOT KNOW HOW RICH HE IS.
IS. IT SHOWS IN EVERYTHING HE DOES.
IT SHOWS IN EVERYTHING HE DOES. IT'S ALWAYS THE BOASTING THE
IT'S ALWAYS THE BOASTING THE BRAGGING, THE GOT THE BEST
BRAGGING, THE GOT THE BEST APARTMENT AND MOST SOLID GOLD.
APARTMENT AND MOST SOLID GOLD. THAT'S BECAUSE HE'S SUPER
THAT'S BECAUSE HE'S SUPER CONSCIOUS ABOUT THE FACT HE
CONSCIOUS ABOUT THE FACT HE KNOWS HE'S ON THIS GIANT PYRAMID
KNOWS HE'S ON THIS GIANT PYRAMID OF B.S. THAT COMPRISES HIS

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