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>>> FOR YEARS PEOPLE HAVE
>>> FOR YEARS PEOPLE HAVE NOTICED THE SOMEWHAT STRANGE AND
NOTICED THE SOMEWHAT STRANGE AND OFTEN LET'S SAY OVERLY
OFTEN LET'S SAY OVERLY FAMILIARITY PHYSICALITY OF ONE
FAMILIARITY PHYSICALITY OF ONE JOE BIDEN, SPECIFICALLY WITH
JOE BIDEN, SPECIFICALLY WITH WOMEN.
WOMEN. NUMEROUS PHOTOS HAVE SHOWN BIDEN
NUMEROUS PHOTOS HAVE SHOWN BIDEN IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH VARIOUS
IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH VARIOUS WOMEN PROMPTING HEADLINES LIKE
WOMEN PROMPTING HEADLINES LIKE JOE BIDEN, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT
JOE BIDEN, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE WAY YOU TOUCH WOMEN.
THE WAY YOU TOUCH WOMEN. LATE LAST WEEK, FORMER NEVADA
LATE LAST WEEK, FORMER NEVADA LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR CANDIDATE
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR CANDIDATE LUCY FLORES WROTE ABOUT HER OWN
LUCY FLORES WROTE ABOUT HER OWN EXPERIENCE WITH BIDEN, WRITING
EXPERIENCE WITH BIDEN, WRITING THAT AT A CAMPAIGN EVENT IN
THAT AT A CAMPAIGN EVENT IN 2014, BIDEN PUT HIS HANDS ON HER
2014, BIDEN PUT HIS HANDS ON HER SHOULDERS, INHALED MY HAIR AND
SHOULDERS, INHALED MY HAIR AND PROCEEDED TO PLANT A BIG SLOW
PROCEEDED TO PLANT A BIG SLOW KISS ON THE BACK OF MY HEAD.
KISS ON THE BACK OF MY HEAD. >> I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT I
>> I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT I FELT IN ANY WAY SEXUALLY
FELT IN ANY WAY SEXUALLY ASSAULTED OR HARASSED.
ASSAULTED OR HARASSED. I FELT INVADED.
I FELT INVADED. I FELT THAT THERE WAS A
I FELT THAT THERE WAS A VIOLATION OF MY PERSONAL SPACE.
VIOLATION OF MY PERSONAL SPACE. >> TODAY A CONNECTICUT WOMAN
>> TODAY A CONNECTICUT WOMAN RELAYED A SPECTACULAR EXPERIENCE
RELAYED A SPECTACULAR EXPERIENCE TELLING THE HARTFORD CURRENT IT
TELLING THE HARTFORD CURRENT IT WASN'T SEXUAL, BUT HE DID GRAB
WASN'T SEXUAL, BUT HE DID GRAB ME BY HIS HEAD, PUT HIS HAND
ME BY HIS HEAD, PUT HIS HAND AROUND MY HEAD AND PULLED ME IN
AROUND MY HEAD AND PULLED ME IN TO RUB NOSES WITH ME.
TO RUB NOSES WITH ME. NBC HAS NOT VERIFIED EITHER OF
NBC HAS NOT VERIFIED EITHER OF THOSE INCIDENTS.
THOSE INCIDENTS. BIDEN SAID IN RESPONSE TO BOTH
BIDEN SAID IN RESPONSE TO BOTH ALLEGATIONS, HE DOES NOT BELIEVE
ALLEGATIONS, HE DOES NOT BELIEVE HE EVER ACTED INAPPROPRIATELY,
HE EVER ACTED INAPPROPRIATELY, ADDED IF IT IS SUGGESTED I DID
ADDED IF IT IS SUGGESTED I DID SO, I WILL LISTEN RESPECTFULLY,
SO, I WILL LISTEN RESPECTFULLY, BUT IT WAS NEVER MY INTENTION.
BUT IT WAS NEVER MY INTENTION. I MAY NOT RECALL THESE MOMENTS
I MAY NOT RECALL THESE MOMENTS THE SAY SAME WAY AND I MAY BE
THE SAY SAME WAY AND I MAY BE SURPRISED WHAT I HEAR.
SURPRISED WHAT I HEAR. THE DISCUSSION HAS OCCASIONED A
THE DISCUSSION HAS OCCASIONED A DEBATE ABOUT BIDEN PAST AND HIS
DEBATE ABOUT BIDEN PAST AND HIS RECORD AS WELL AS HOW TO DEAL
RECORD AS WELL AS HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR.
WITH THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR. INVASION OF PERSONAL SPACE THAT
INVASION OF PERSONAL SPACE THAT IS HIGHLY GENDERED, EACH IF IT
IS HIGHLY GENDERED, EACH IF IT DOESN'T FIT INTO THE CATEGORY OF
DOESN'T FIT INTO THE CATEGORY OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT.
SEXUAL MISCONDUCT. JOINING ME ASIA MOONEY MILLS,
JOINING ME ASIA MOONEY MILLS, AND DEMOCRATIC POLITICAL
AND DEMOCRATIC POLITICAL CONSULTANT AN ASSOCIATE
CONSULTANT AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR AND A FORMER CANDIDATE
PROFESSOR AND A FORMER CANDIDATE YOURSELF.
YOURSELF. >> YES.
>> YES. >> LET ME START WITH YOU.
>> LET ME START WITH YOU. YOU'VE RUN FOR OFFICE.
YOU'VE RUN FOR OFFICE. I'VE GOTTEN A WIDE SPECTRUM OF
I'VE GOTTEN A WIDE SPECTRUM OF FEEDBACK ON THIS, JUST FROM
FEEDBACK ON THIS, JUST FROM EMAILS AND CONVERSATIONS WITH
EMAILS AND CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. HOW YOU THINKING ABOUT THIS?
HOW YOU THINKING ABOUT THIS? >> WELL WE ARE IN THIS
>> WELL WE ARE IN THIS INCREDIBLY EXCITING MOMENT WHERE
INCREDIBLY EXCITING MOMENT WHERE THE NORMS ARE CHANGING.
THE NORMS ARE CHANGING. AND THEY'RE CHANGING PRIVATE OR
AND THEY'RE CHANGING PRIVATE OR PRIVATE QUASI PUBLIC BUT LEGAL
PRIVATE QUASI PUBLIC BUT LEGAL NORMS ARE CHANGING.
NORMS ARE CHANGING. THEY'RE CHANGING WHEN IT COMES
THEY'RE CHANGING WHEN IT COMES TO HOW MEN IN POWER INTERACT
TO HOW MEN IN POWER INTERACT WITH WOMEN.
WITH WOMEN. AND THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY
AND THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND GOOD THING.
IMPORTANT AND GOOD THING. IT'S ALSO CHANGING, BY THE WAY,
IT'S ALSO CHANGING, BY THE WAY, IT'S THE SAME WEEKEND THIS
IT'S THE SAME WEEKEND THIS HAPPENED, YOU SAW THIS BIG STORY
HAPPENED, YOU SAW THIS BIG STORY ABOUT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES
ABOUT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES HIDING THEIR DONORS.
HIDING THEIR DONORS. >> YES.
>> YES. >> INDEED OF PRESIDENT TRUMP PET
>> INDEED OF PRESIDENT TRUMP PET DONORS.
DONORS. WE'RE CALLING OUT CANDIDATES FOR
WE'RE CALLING OUT CANDIDATES FOR TALKING TO BIG-TIME DONORS.
TALKING TO BIG-TIME DONORS. I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLY
I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
IMPORTANT. IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO BE
IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO BE PART OF DEMANDING THAT WE CHANGE
PART OF DEMANDING THAT WE CHANGE OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR HOW
OUR EXPECTATIONS FOR HOW POWERFUL MEN TREAT PEOPLE.
POWERFUL MEN TREAT PEOPLE. AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO
AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT FOR THE VAST
REMEMBER THAT FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WHO ARE
MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WHO ARE LIVING WITH REAL INSECURITY AND
LIVING WITH REAL INSECURITY AND MORE AND MORE CONTINGENT WORKERS
MORE AND MORE CONTINGENT WORKERS DYING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD
DYING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD INSULIN, THEY ARE DESPERATE TO
INSULIN, THEY ARE DESPERATE TO HEAR ABOUT POLICIES AND THAT
HEAR ABOUT POLICIES AND THAT POLICIES HAVE AN INVASIVE --
POLICIES HAVE AN INVASIVE -- POLICIES ARE VIOLENT.
POLICIES ARE VIOLENT. POLICIES INVADE PEOPLE'S LIVES.
POLICIES INVADE PEOPLE'S LIVES. EUROPE, I WAS JUST TALKING TO
EUROPE, I WAS JUST TALKING TO SOMEBODY ABOUT THIS TODAY ABOUT
SOMEBODY ABOUT THIS TODAY ABOUT FOR A LOT OF VOTERS, PRIMARY
FOR A LOT OF VOTERS, PRIMARY VOTERS AND GENERAL VOTERS, JOE
VOTERS AND GENERAL VOTERS, JOE BIDEN'S VOTE ON THE WAR IN IRAQ
BIDEN'S VOTE ON THE WAR IN IRAQ LEADING TO THE DEATH OF 500,000
LEADING TO THE DEATH OF 500,000 IRAQIS.
IRAQIS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S REAL VIOLENCE
YOU KNOW, THAT'S REAL VIOLENCE THAT MATTERS TO VOTERS.
THAT MATTERS TO VOTERS. AND I THINK THE PUZZLE AS A
AND I THINK THE PUZZLE AS A CANDIDATE IS HOW DO YOU BOTH BE
CANDIDATE IS HOW DO YOU BOTH BE OUT FRONT IN MAKING SURE THAT
OUT FRONT IN MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE PART OF LEADING THIS
YOU'RE PART OF LEADING THIS CHANGE IN THE NORMS, WHICH IS A
CHANGE IN THE NORMS, WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD THING, AND CONTINUE
REALLY GOOD THING, AND CONTINUE TO CONSISTENTLY SPEAK TO THE
TO CONSISTENTLY SPEAK TO THE ANXIETY THAT VOTERS ARE FEELING.
ANXIETY THAT VOTERS ARE FEELING. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK, AYESHA?
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK, AYESHA? >> WELL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE
>> WELL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF WHAT ZEPHYR IS SAYING
IDEA OF WHAT ZEPHYR IS SAYING ABOUT ACTUALLY BEING A CANDIDATE
ABOUT ACTUALLY BEING A CANDIDATE WHO LEADS ON THE FACTS THAT THE
WHO LEADS ON THE FACTS THAT THE ENORMOUS ARE CHANGING IS WHAT
ENORMOUS ARE CHANGING IS WHAT JOE BIDEN NEEDS TO LEAN INTO.
JOE BIDEN NEEDS TO LEAN INTO. WE'VE HAD THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS
WE'VE HAD THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS OF HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT
OF HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER HE IS CREEPY, WHETHER
WHETHER HE IS CREEPY, WHETHER THIS IS ACCEPTABLE.
THIS IS ACCEPTABLE. I THINK WE'VE GONE BEYOND THE
I THINK WE'VE GONE BEYOND THE QUESTION OF WHETHER IT'S OKAY TO
QUESTION OF WHETHER IT'S OKAY TO NUZZLE HIS NOSE AGAINST SOMEBODY
NUZZLE HIS NOSE AGAINST SOMEBODY ELSE'S, PARTICULARLY A WOMAN OR
ELSE'S, PARTICULARLY A WOMAN OR KISS THE BACK OF SOMEBODY'S
KISS THE BACK OF SOMEBODY'S HEAD.
HEAD. I APPRECIATE THE STATEMENT.
I APPRECIATE THE STATEMENT. I THINK HE ALWAYS SHOWS UP WITH
I THINK HE ALWAYS SHOWS UP WITH DIGNITY AND SAYS I'M WILLING TO
DIGNITY AND SAYS I'M WILLING TO LISTEN IF PEOPLE THINK I'VE
LISTEN IF PEOPLE THINK I'VE WRONGED THEM.
WRONGED THEM. BUT WHAT I WANT TO SEE IS MORE
BUT WHAT I WANT TO SEE IS MORE OF A LEANING IN TO THE FACT THAT
OF A LEANING IN TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS NOT OKAY.
THIS IS NOT OKAY. AND SOME AFFIRMATION THAT MOVING
AND SOME AFFIRMATION THAT MOVING FORWARD, HE WILL BE MORE
FORWARD, HE WILL BE MORE CONSCIOUS OF THE PERSONAL SPACE
CONSCIOUS OF THE PERSONAL SPACE THAT HE TAKES UP AND THE WAY
THAT HE TAKES UP AND THE WAY THAT HE INVADES OTHER PEOPLE'S,
THAT HE INVADES OTHER PEOPLE'S, AND DOESN'T JUST SAY WELL, I'M
AND DOESN'T JUST SAY WELL, I'M BEING A NICE GUY AND I DIDN'T
BEING A NICE GUY AND I DIDN'T THINK I WAS HURTING ANYBODY'S
THINK I WAS HURTING ANYBODY'S FEELINGS, BUT TO SAY YOU KNOW
FEELINGS, BUT TO SAY YOU KNOW WHAT?
WHAT? I GET IT, AND I'M BACKING OFF
I GET IT, AND I'M BACKING OFF AND I'M GOING TO CHANGE MY
AND I'M GOING TO CHANGE MY POSTURE, AND LET ME BE A MODEL
POSTURE, AND LET ME BE A MODEL THEN OF BEHAVIOR CHANGE AND OF
THEN OF BEHAVIOR CHANGE AND OF UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE ARE NOW
UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE ARE NOW WHERE WOMEN DESERVE TO BE HEARD
WHERE WOMEN DESERVE TO BE HEARD AND CERTAINLY I NEED TO BACK UP
AND CERTAINLY I NEED TO BACK UP SO THAT WOMEN DON'T HAVE TO KIND
SO THAT WOMEN DON'T HAVE TO KIND OF LOOK AT ME AND PUSH ME AWAY.
OF LOOK AT ME AND PUSH ME AWAY. >> I SHOULD NOTE THAT STEPHANIE
>> I SHOULD NOTE THAT STEPHANIE CARTER, WHO IS THE SPOUSE OF ASH
CARTER, WHO IS THE SPOUSE OF ASH CARTER, THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE
CARTER, THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE WROTE THIS PIECE TODAY THAT I
WROTE THIS PIECE TODAY THAT I THOU WAS INTERESTING.
THOU WAS INTERESTING. THERE IS THIS ICONIC PHOTO OF
THERE IS THIS ICONIC PHOTO OF BIDEN WITH HANDS ON HER
BIDEN WITH HANDS ON HER SHOULDERS WHICH IS OFTEN
SHOULDERS WHICH IS OFTEN INCLUDED ON OH, HE IS BEING TOO
INCLUDED ON OH, HE IS BEING TOO PERSONAL.
PERSONAL. SHE WROTE A PIECE THAT WAS
SHE WROTE A PIECE THAT WAS WELCOMED.
WELCOMED. I HAD A REALLY TOUGH DAY AND I
I HAD A REALLY TOUGH DAY AND I HAD FALLEN AND SORT OF DEFENDING
HAD FALLEN AND SORT OF DEFENDING HIM SAYING THE PICTURE DOESN'T
HIM SAYING THE PICTURE DOESN'T TELL THE FULL STORY OF WHATEVER
TELL THE FULL STORY OF WHATEVER IS HAPPENING IN THIS SPECIFIC
IS HAPPENING IN THIS SPECIFIC MOMENT.
MOMENT. BUT IN THE BROADER QUESTION OF
BUT IN THE BROADER QUESTION OF NORMS, I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN
NORMS, I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN ARGUMENT THAT PEOPLE HAVE MADE
ARGUMENT THAT PEOPLE HAVE MADE TO ME.
TO ME. IT'S NOT MY ARGUMENT, BUT I HEAR
IT'S NOT MY ARGUMENT, BUT I HEAR IT FROM LOTS OF DIFFERENT
IT FROM LOTS OF DIFFERENT DEMOCRATIC VOTERS WHICH IS
DEMOCRATIC VOTERS WHICH IS DEMOCRATS ARE CRAZY AND THEY'RE
DEMOCRATS ARE CRAZY AND THEY'RE CANNIBALS AND THEY'RE GOING TO
CANNIBALS AND THEY'RE GOING TO EAT EACH OTHER ALIVE FINDING
EAT EACH OTHER ALIVE FINDING THINGS WRONG WITH EVERYONE.
THINGS WRONG WITH EVERYONE. AND BECAUSE THE NORMS ARE
AND BECAUSE THE NORMS ARE SHIFTING, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK
SHIFTING, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK OUT OF TOUCH WITH AN AMERICA
OUT OF TOUCH WITH AN AMERICA STILL CLINGING TO OLDER NORMS,
STILL CLINGING TO OLDER NORMS, OR NOT EVEN CLINGING, JUST
OR NOT EVEN CLINGING, JUST INHABITING OLDER NORMS.
INHABITING OLDER NORMS. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? >> YEAH, I THINK ONE OF THE
>> YEAH, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT IN PARTICULAR THIS
THINGS ABOUT IN PARTICULAR THIS SORT OF WHOLE ARRAY OF WAYS IN
SORT OF WHOLE ARRAY OF WAYS IN WHICH MEN CAN BE CREEPY WITH
WHICH MEN CAN BE CREEPY WITH WOMEN, WE KNOW IT'S UBIQUITOUS,
WOMEN, WE KNOW IT'S UBIQUITOUS, AND WE SAW WITH ME TOO HOW EVEN
AND WE SAW WITH ME TOO HOW EVEN MORE THAN CREEPINESS IS
MORE THAN CREEPINESS IS UBIQUITOUS.
UBIQUITOUS. IT'S A STORY THAT EVERYBODY
IT'S A STORY THAT EVERYBODY EXPERIENCES.
EXPERIENCES. AND THAT SORT OF -- NOT A DOUBLE
AND THAT SORT OF -- NOT A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD, BUT I HAS TWO
EDGED SWORD, BUT I HAS TWO DIFFERENT IMPLICATIONS.
DIFFERENT IMPLICATIONS. ONE IS EVERYBODY CAN RELATE TO
ONE IS EVERYBODY CAN RELATE TO IT.
IT. A LOT OF THE BEHAVIORS YOU'RE
A LOT OF THE BEHAVIORS YOU'RE SEEING ARE WELL, MAYBE MY
SEEING ARE WELL, MAYBE MY EX-HUSBAND DID THAT OR MAYBE MY
EX-HUSBAND DID THAT OR MAYBE MY BROTHER DOES THAT.
BROTHER DOES THAT. >> THEY'RE REALLY COMMON.
>> THEY'RE REALLY COMMON. AND I KNOW PEOPLE THAT DO THEM.
AND I KNOW PEOPLE THAT DO THEM. >> AND I DON'T WANT TO SORT OF
>> AND I DON'T WANT TO SORT OF CANCEL THEM FROM MY LIFE.
CANCEL THEM FROM MY LIFE. SO THAT I BOTH DON'T LIKE IT, I
SO THAT I BOTH DON'T LIKE IT, I WANT TO CHANGE IT, BUT JUST
WANT TO CHANGE IT, BUT JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO CHANGE IT
BECAUSE I WANT TO CHANGE IT DOESN'T MEAN I'M QUITE WILLING
DOESN'T MEAN I'M QUITE WILLING TO CANCEL FOLKS.
TO CANCEL FOLKS. >> WELL SAID I THINK.
>> WELL SAID I THINK. ASIA?
ASIA? >> I'LL SAY THIS, CHRIS.
>> I'LL SAY THIS, CHRIS. I'M TIRED OF THIS CONVERSATION
I'M TIRED OF THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER CANDIDATES AREN'T
ABOUT WHETHER CANDIDATES AREN'T GOING TO APPEAL TO OR ARE GOING
GOING TO APPEAL TO OR ARE GOING TO ISOLATE PEOPLE AND THEY'RE
TO ISOLATE PEOPLE AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT OF STEP WITH
GOING TO BE OUT OF STEP WITH WHERE PEOPLE ARE.
WHERE PEOPLE ARE. WHAT I'M LOOK BARGAINED FOR TO
WHAT I'M LOOK BARGAINED FOR TO IS HAVING A CANDIDATE THAT IS A
IS HAVING A CANDIDATE THAT IS A LITTLE MORE FORWARD THINKING AND
LITTLE MORE FORWARD THINKING AND ASPIRATIONAL AROUND WHERE WE
ASPIRATIONAL AROUND WHERE WE WANT TO BE.
WANT TO BE. SO I WANT PEOPLE TO SHOW UP WITH
SO I WANT PEOPLE TO SHOW UP WITH THE KIND OF VALUES AND POSTURE
THE KIND OF VALUES AND POSTURE THAT IS WHO WE ASPIRE TO BE AND
THAT IS WHO WE ASPIRE TO BE AND NOT REGRESS TO SOME SOCIAL NORMS
NOT REGRESS TO SOME SOCIAL NORMS THAT WE SHOULD KIND OF TAKE ON
THAT WE SHOULD KIND OF TAKE ON BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST DO IT THAT

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