What's Next (Or Not Next) For Stacey Abrams?

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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, FOLKS, NEXT GUEST WAS THE 2018
DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA, WHERE SHE WON MORE
VOTES THAN ANY DEMOCRAT IN THAT STATE'S HISTORY.
SHE'S ALSO THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK "LEAD FROM THE OUTSIDE."
PLEASE WELCOME STACEY ABRAMS!
♪ I'M EVERY WOMAN I'M EVERY WOMAN
♪ I'M EVERY WOMAN EVERY WOMAN, BABY ♪
>> Stephen: THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> Stephen: YOU HAVE HAD A VERY EXCITING LAST HALF HOUR.
I UNDERSTAND THAT SITTING BACK THERE, YOU LEARNED SOMETHING
ABOUT YOUR BOOK "LEAD FROM THE OUTSIDE," AVAILABLE IN PAPERBACK
RIGHT NOW.
>> I DID, INDEED.
>> Stephen: WHAT DID YOU FIND OUT?
>> THAT I AM NUMBER THREE ON THE NEW YORK BESTSELLING NONFICTION
PAPERBACK LIST.
>> Stephen: RIGHT HERE, YOU FOUND OUT BACKSTAGE.
>> I FOUND OUT BACKSTAGE.
I STOPPED LISTENING AFTER NUMBER THREE, AND THEN THEY GAVE ME ALL
THE CAVEATS.
I CALLED MY MOM, "I'M NUMBER THREE!"
>> >> Stephen: THAT'S FANTASTIC.
>> MY DAD SAID, "SO YOU BEAT MICHELLE OBAMA."
>> AND I SAID, NUMBER THREE ON "NEW YORK TIMES" BESTSELLING
LIST OF PAPERBACKS SOLD ON A THURSDAY.
>> Stephen: JUST TELL YOUR DAD YOU BEAT MICHELLE OBAMA.
YOU HAD A HISTORIC RUN FOR GEORGIA GOVERNOR, AS I SAID
BEFORE.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) YOU NOTABLY DID NOT CONCEDE.
>> I DID NOT.
>> Stephen: YOU ACKNOWLEDGED.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: THAT HE WON, BUT YOU DID NOT CONCEIT.
>> CORRECT.
>> Stephen: OKAY, SO YOU ACTUALLY FILED A LAWSUIT IN
GEORGIA OVER VOTER SUPPRESSION.
>> CORRECT.
>> Stephen: FIVE MONTHS LATER, DO YOU STILL FEEL LIKE YOUR
OPPONENT WON THROUGH VOTER SUPPRESSION?
>> YES.
>> Stephen: OKAY.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) WHAT NOW--
>> THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING, BUT, YES.
>> Stephen: IT'S NOT A GOOD THING.
BUT NOW WHAT?
WHAT NOW FOR GEORGIA?
>> THE LAWSUIT I FILED WILL NOT MAKE ME GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA NO
MATTER HOW SUCCESSFUL WE ARE.
THE ELECTION IS OVER.
HE IS THE GOVERNOR, I AM NOT.
I DO NOT LIVE IN THE MANSION, SO I KNOW IT'S TRUE.
>> Stephen: ONE OF THE HINTS.
>> EXACTLY.
BUT ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE LAWSUIT IS IT'S NOT ABOUT
WHETHER I WON OR LOST.
IT IS THE FACT THAT GEORGIA VOTERS DID NOT HAVE THEIR VOTES
COUNTED.
THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO CAST VOTES.
THEY HAD THEIR VOTES DISCARD WHAT WERE SOME OF THE MOST
EGREGIOUS.
>> 51.5 MILLION VOTERS PURGED.
214 PRECINCTS CLOSED UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP.
>> Stephen: YOUR OPPONENT WAS THE SECRETARY OF STATE AT THE
TIME WHO CONTROLLED THE ELECTION PROCESS.
>> HE WAS THE REFEREE, HE WAS ALL THE CONTESTANT, HE WAS THE
SCORE KEEPER.
>> Stephen: BOO!
>> I.
>> Audience: BOO!
>> I AGREE.
THERE ARE REGISTRATION ISSUES.
HE HELD 53,000 REGISTRATION APPLICANTS HOSTAGE, CLAIMING
THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE AN EXACT MATCH, WHICH 90% OF WHOM WERE
PEOPLE OF COLOR.
AND A FEDERAL JUDGE TOLD HIM A YEAR BEFORE THAT THAT WAS
RACIALLY DISCRIMINATORY AND NOT TO DO IT.
HE LED -- >> Stephen: WELL, THEN HOW CAN
YOU DO IT?
>> HE GOT THE STATE LEGISLATURE, WHICH IS CONTROLLED BY
REPUBLICANS, TO PASS A STATE VERSION OF THE LAW.
>> Audience: BOO.
>> Stephen: IT'S ILLEGAL EVERYWHERE.
>> A FEDERAL JUDGE SAID DON'T DO THIS.
THEY SAID WE WON'T.
AND HE CAME TO THE LEGISLATURE AND SAID, "I WAS TOLD WE CANNOT
DO THIS.
YOU CAN MAKE IT SO WE CAN DO IT?"
>> Stephen: WE OFTEN HAVE POLITICIANS ON THE SHOW, AND THE
POLITICIAN OFTEN DURING THAT TIME, DURING THAT OFFICE, OR
DURING THAT POLITICAL CYCLE, THEY REPRESENT AN IDEA, A DRIVE,
AN AMBITION AIR, PARTICULAR CONSTITUENCY, SOME IDEA FOR
AMERICA.
WHAT DO YOU REPRESENT RIGHT NOW?
>> SO THERE ARE TWO THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON.
ONE IS CALLED FAIR FIGHT ACTION, WHICH IS THE ORGANIZATION WHICH
IS PURSUING THE LAWSUIT, BUT ALSO LEGISLATION AND ADVOCACY.
BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT OUR DEMOCRACY IS UNDER ATTACK, AND
WE HAVE TO STOP VOTER SUPPRESSION.
IT IS REAL.
IT IS PERVASIVE, AND IT WILL DESTROY AMERICA IF WE DON'T STOP
IT.
AND THEN I'M ALSO-- WE JUST LAUNCHED LAST WEEK FAIR COUNT,
WHICH IS A 513-"C" ORGANIZATION TO ENSURE POPULATIONS ARE
INCLUDED IN THE CENSUS.
IN GEORGIA WE KNOW 20%, POSSIBLY MORE, WERE NOT COUNTED IN 2010.
WE KNOW THAT COST US MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE RURAL COMMUNITIES, PEOPLE OF COLOR,
IMMIGRANTS, ARE ALL COUNTED IN COUNTED INTHE CENSUS.
( APPLAUSE ).
>> Stephen: IN THE BOOK, YOU HAVE AN XCEL SPREADSHEET OF LIFE
GOALS, YOU SAY.
>> I DO, I DO.
>> Stephen: IS PRESIDENT STILL ON THAT SPREADSHEET?
>> IT IS, IT IS.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: SO IT SEEMS LIKE--
IT SEEMS LIKE AT TIMES THAT EVERY DEMOCRAT IS-- IS
ANNOUNCING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OR ABOUT TO
ANNOUNCE OR THINKING ABOUT, THINKING ABOUT ANNOUNCING
THEY'RE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
WOULD YOU-- WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT YOU'RE NOT RUNNING
FOR PRESIDENT?
IS THERE ANY-- IS THERE ANY NEWS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS
EVENING?
>> THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO NEWS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS EVENING.
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: REALLY?
THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS NEWS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO
DECLARE THAT YOU'RE NOT RUNNING RIGHT NOW.
>> I AM NOT WILLING TO DECLARE ANYTHING TONIGHT.
>> Stephen: I AM WILLING TO DECLARE THAT I AM FORMING AN
EXPLORATORY COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER NOT RUNNING.
( LAUGHTER ).
>> WELL, NOW, YOU ARE YOU GOING TO FILE TO THE F.C.C. SO WE CAN
CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR EXPLORATION OF NOTHING?
>> Stephen: YES, YES.
AS LONG AS I GET TO SPEND THE MONEY NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT,
YOU BET I WILL.
>> THERE YOU GO.
( LAUGHTER ).
>> Stephen: NOW, YOU'RE ALSO A RETIRED ROMANCE NOVELIST.
>> I AM.
>> Stephen: HEAVY ON THE "RETIRED."
>> I'M ON PROLONGED HIATUS.
>> Stephen: PROLONGED HIATUS.
YOU DID NOT WRITE UNDER YOUR OWN NAME.
AND YOUR NAME IS.
>> CELINA IMMIGRANT.
>> Stephen: WHY NOT YOUR NAME?
>> MY NAME WAS BORING.
I WROTE MY MASTERS THESIS ON THE UNRELATED BUSINESS INCOME TAX.
>> Stephen: THAT IS SEXY RIGHT THERE.
>> THAT'S WHAT MY EDITORS THOUGHT.
SO WE DECIDED -- AND THIS WAS AT THE ADVENT OF GOOGLE.
SO IF YOU GOOGLED MY NAME, YOU WOULD HAVE PULLED UP THAT AND AN
ARTICLE I HAD WRITTEN WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL ON MESOPOTAMIAN
ASTRONOMY.
SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE READING ROMANCE BY ALAN
GREENSPAN OR ALAN LIGHTMAN, NEITHER OF WHICH IS EXCITING SO
I CAME UP WITH THE SUED NAM, SERENA IMMIGRANT.
>> Stephen: I HAVE AN EXCERPT AND THESE HAD TO BE CLEARED WITH
STANDARDS AND PRACTICES AT CBS, AND THERE IS SOME OF THIS, THEY
SAID, I CAN'T READ.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE A ROMANCE NOVEL, MAKE IT A BODICE
RIPPER.
>> THEY WERE EVOCATIVE.
>> Stephen: THEY WERE EVOCATIVE.
ANY OF THESE YOU WANT ME TO READ?
>> I DON'T WANT YOU TO READ ANY OF THESE.
I WANT PEOPLE TO-- I WANT PEOPLE TO READ THEM IN THE CREDIT QET
OF THEIR HOME.
>> Stephen: I THINK-- I THINK-- EVERYBODY AT HOME, GET
COMFORTABLE.
>> CAN I LEAVE?
CAN I LEAVE NOW?
>> Stephen: "RECKLESS," BY CELINA IMMIGRANT.
DO YOU WANT IT READ IT INSTEAD-- >> NO, I DON'T.
( LAUGHTER ).
>> Stephen: "2009, SOFTLY, INEXORABLY HE TESTED THE
CONTOURS OF HER LIPS, THE DAMP HEAT URGING HIM INSIDE.
REACHING FOR PATIENCE, LUKE SANK DOWN INTO THE CHAIR SHE'D
ABANDONED AND SETTLED HER ACROSS HIS LAP.
HER EYES FLUTTERED OPEN, HER FINGERS CLUTCHED AT HIS
SHOULDER, WHEN SHE PULLED HER CLOSER, PATIENCE FLED."
>> IT WAS A REALLY GOOD KISS.
>> Stephen: IS THERE ANY OF THAT HERE.
BECAUSE THAT REALLY-- I UNDERSTAND WHY IT WOULD BE A
BESTSALER.
>> YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK OUT ONE OF THE PAGES TO SEE IF IT'S
IN THERE.
>> Stephen: SEXY STUFF.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
THIS IS AMAZING.
>> Stephen: "LEAD FROM THE OUTSIDE" IS AVAILABLE NOW.
STACEY ABRAMS, EVERYBODY!
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH A PERFORMANCE BY KEVIN GARRETT.

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